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Old April 26th 20, 10:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default RIP John Forester

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 3:45:42 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 4/23/2020 3:22 PM, James wrote:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlton.../#5bc19d171cc3


Yeah, just saw that report earlier today. I had no idea that he was
related to C.S. Forester.

I received a copy of his manuscript before Effective Cycling was
published, sometime in the early 1980's. Reading it was like Richard
Feynman when he was on the California textbook selection committee and
his wife would hear him scream whenever he encountered something really
stupid in a book (the story is in his book, "Surely You're Joking Mr.
Feynman").

He had his opinions, but very little was fact-based. Loved the line in
that Forbes story "Despite never having ridden on any cycleways in the
Netherlands, Forester was heavily critical of Dutch cycleways, stating
them to be dangerous for cyclists." That was the essence of his
personality, pontificate on things that you have absolutely no knowledge
about.

Fortunately few states or municipalities paid any attention to his
rantings, including in Palo Alto. Ellen Fletcher, for whom Palo Alto's
Bryant Street Bike Boulevard is named, was far more effective in
promoting widespread bicycling in Palo Alto
https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2012/11/08/palo-altos-bicycle-pioneer-ellen-fletcher-dies.

"Despite the copious evidence that the separation of transport modes can
and does improve safety for cyclists, and encourages more people to
cycle, Forester remained adamant that providing cycleways was a
retrograde step for the health of cycling."


Tell us all how many cycleways you rode on in the Netherlands? What I saw was the same problems as here - drivers with the idea that since they had more power and paid more for their mode of transportation that they had right of way and drive with EXTREME danger around riders.
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