On 4/8/2019 9:56 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 08 Apr 2019 19:22:21 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 4/8/2019 6:30 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 08 Apr 2019 09:43:36 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 4/8/2019 9:04 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/7/2019 11:54 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 08 Apr 2019 09:43:57 +0700,
wrote:

To be honest, in this day and age it makes little sense
to manufacture
in the U.S. Given the cost of labor and overhead in the
U.S. you can
make the same product in a foreign country much cheaper
and if you are
a competent manager of the same quality.

True. We have successfully exported most of our
industrial capacity
to foreign countries. In return we get cheap manufactured
products.
When we export most of our research and design, the US
will cease to
be a major manufacturing nation. Trek can then remove the
"Designed
in Wisconsin" sticker.

For example, the U.S. minimum salary is now in the
$10/hour range I'm
told while in Thailand the minimum salary is 300 baht, about
US$9..60... a day.

As we slowly blunder towards a world economy, such pay
imbalances are
unlikely to continue. Initially, as the standard of
living increases
in former counties with currently low labor rates, they
will simply
find other 3rd world countries with similarly low labor
rates to
exploit. Maybe a few small wars might be needed to
equalize the pay
scale. My crystal ball isn't very clear beyond that point.






Our US trade magazine just dropped Italy from the quarterly
import report and replaced them with Vietnam (now 10X
Italy's volume).

Meanwhile these guys are a going concern and just extended
their order to ship times by a few weeks:

dammit here's the actual link
https://waterfordbikes.com/

I notice that site doesn't seem to include prices... is that to
prevent heart attacks amongst their potential customers?


The accepted wisdom of so-called web experts today is to
start with a popular and functional website and then change
it frenetically and mercilessly until whatever you seek is
hard to find:

https://waterfordbikes.com/pricing/

Pretty fair proof that "you can get it over there, cheaper :-)


For apples vs. oranges maybe.

In our actual world, we export Waterford and Gunnar because
they are competitive to similar quality product anywhere on
earth.

No one chooses a Waterford over a $89 XMart BSO or the other
way around.

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Andrew Muzi
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