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Old April 21st 17, 01:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
James Wilkinson Sword[_4_]
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Default Minicab driver who ran over cyclist whilst distracted on mobilephone spared jail

On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:18:18 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 21/04/2017 13:06, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:03:12 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 21/04/2017 12:53, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:46:23 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 21/04/2017 12:33, JNugent wrote:
On 21/04/2017 11:00, Bod wrote:

On 21/04/2017 10:57, Bod wrote:

*How was this not "dangerous driving"*?

Abdelyekini Olafusi was found guilty of careless driving after he
ran
down the woman in Clerkenwell.

Olafusi clipped the back of the 41-year-old cyclist’s wheel when he
turned right at traffic lights on Gray's Inn Road on May 27.

The cyclist, an Italian woman, fell off her bike to the ground but
Olafusi did not stop and continued to drive over her.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3519751.html




*Correction* dangerous driving

The distinction is whether driving falls below the required
standard or
far below the required standard.

The latter is always (and rightly) hard to prove.

But the driver got a 15 month ban and a significant fine (£1250 IIRC,
and no mean penalty for someone whose livelihood has just been
withdrawn
from him).

I wouldn't like to be on the paying end of his next insurance premium,
either.

Should he also have been fastened to a hurdle, drawn by horse to a
place
of execution, then hanged (almost to the point of death), emasculated,
disembowelled, beheaded and quartered (chopped into four pieces)?

It is NOT illegal to use a hands free phone whilst driving so one
assumes that he was holding the phone.
People with phones stuck to their ears should be made an example of
with
jail sentences. That'll immediately greatly reduce the incidences of
these sort of accidents.

********. You can be not paying attention without using a phone at
all. On the other hand, I have no difficulty calling or texting while
driving. People can multitask (driving is already doing a few things at
once).

It's *your* attitude to using a phone at the wheel that is all too
prevalent and that's why I say that drivers with phones to their ear
should be jailed to help stop their use.
I now put my phone into the glove box and that is where it stays whilst
I am driving.


Why can't you use a phone while driving? It's perfectly easy to do, and
I see people driving work vans around all the time while holding one to
their ear. Funnily enough the van is driven perfectly.

You find that acceptible, most people do not.


Clearly all the people using phones also find it acceptable.

And how can you find it unacceptable to drive correctly? I just said the vans were being driven well.

Mobile phones biggest cause of road fatalities | UK | News | Express ....

www.express.co.uk › News › UK

Mobile phone-related car crashes have killed 67 people in three years ....
www.mirror.co.uk › News › UK News › Mobile phones


It's not the phones that cause the crash, it's the bad driving. That can be done without a phone.
It should be instead be illegal to cause a crash. Consider two drivers, Mr Smith and Mr Jones.
Mr Smith causes an accident because he wasn't paying attention, or he's rubbish at driving or whatever.
Mr Jones drives along using a mobile phone, and drives perfectly.
Mr Smith is the one that caused harm, and should get into trouble, not Mr Jones.

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