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Old September 6th 11, 07:03 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
JimmyMac
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On Sep 5, 10:01*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message

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On Sep 5, 8:32 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
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Most patients will not bother to learn anything at all about their
disease,
so of course you stand out in that respect. But even so, your doctors
would
probably prefer that you leave the practice of medicine to them.
Wrong once more. *When asked how they felt about having an informed


patient, they were not the least bit troubled. *If I got the
impression that a doctor was the least bit insecure an threatened by a
patient being informed, he or show would no longer be my doctor. *My
doctors indicated that they welcomed and preferred informed patients
because then they were able to are able to engage in a productive
discussion concerning state of health and treatment options involving
the patient in the process. *All of this is so elementary and common
sense approach that it should not even come into question.

Doctors prefer not to discuss anything with their patients. All they want is
that the patient follow their instructions and take their advice on
procedures and medications.


In your not so humble opinion stated as fact, you meant to say. My
doctors do not fall into this category. When one encounters a doctor
that is unwilling to discuss matters, that precludes the patient from
taking responsibility for and participating in their own health care.
If that is the kind of doctors you have, then it is time to look
elsewhere.

Well, they pretend to be liberal arts oriented, but they really are not..
All
that ever comes out of Catholic colleges are a lot of students who go on
to
law and medical schools, neither of which have anything to do with the
liberal arts. When religion informs everything that is studied, then the
liberals arts are dead and buried. Jesuit institutions are notorious for
their ability to indoctrinate.
More errant opinion unsupported by facts or evidence??? *The term


liberal arts refers to a curriculum that imparts general knowledge and
develops the student’s rational thought and intellectual capabilities,
unlike the professional, vocational, and technical curricula
emphasizing specialization. *Contemporary liberal arts comprise
studying literature, languages, philosophy, history, mathematics, and
science [also art and music]. *They were all part of my curriculum. *By the
way, not all my teachers were Jesuits. *Loyola employs lay teachers as well,
but I digress. *I feel that I received a very good education regardless of what
you have to say.

Any teacher employed in a Jesuit institution will have to kowtow to the
prevailing philosophy, or at least not go against it. It is possible to take
a liberals arts course and that it not be in the least liberal, most
especially if it is informed and constrained by religion.


More opinion stated as fact. I attended Loyola. You didn't. It is
logical to assume that I am in a better position to judge whether
religion constrained lay teachers or the teaching of liberal arts
courses. I did not encounter any your imagined constraints.

Interesting how you chose to use the term indoctrinate since that


appears to be one of your objectives in newsgroups and you do a mighty
poor job of it I have to say.

My whole philosophy is to create skepticism about everything that is
so-called 'known' under the sun. I leave dissension and consternation in my
wake wherever I go. I am especially death on political correctness. That is
what I do a good job at.


In this exchange, I have presented facts which you have predictably
have countered not with skepticism, but rather with antagonism in the
form of unsubstantiated opinion and conjecture. Why because when it
come to debate that is just the best the you can do. Granted
dissension is your thing but what you leave in your wake is a
dispassionate, unimpressed and disnterested readership, the very
audience whose attention you strive to aim to elicit.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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