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Old July 22nd 11, 04:07 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
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On Jul 20, 11:41*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message

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On Jul 16, 5:07 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
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Yes, traditional diets are going the way of the Dodo Bird all over the
world. Still, meat is meat.
Well me is meat? Another opinion stated as fact? *Did you ever hear


the saying that you are what you eat? *There is some truth to it . *Is
meat form a vegetarian animal the same as that of a carnivore? *Is red
meat the same as white meat? *Meat from organic free range grass fed
beef and and meat form genetically *modified corn fed beef laced with
hormones, antibiotics, herbicides and pesticides are hardly the same
now are they?

Nope, they are all basically the same.


What we have here is a logical fallacy know as Argumentum ad nauseam
(argument to the point of disgust; i.e., by repetition). This is the
fallacy of trying to prove something by saying it again and again, but
no matter how many times one repeats something, it will not become any
more true than it was with the first utterance. Repetition is no
substitute for argumentation. I gave specific example to substantiate
what I said. You merely repeated your fallacious opinion without
offering any substantiation in support of your position ... typical!!!

Meat is meat! If food is not safe,
the FDA will not allow it on the market.


If you believe that, I've a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.
The FDA has approved many a drug on the market alleged to be
safe.thalidomide being an example. I rest my case..

In the plant world, so called
organic foods are nothing but a rip-off! Some folks apparently just like to
pay a premium for hocus-pocus.
[...]


I think you forgot to precede you opinion stated as fact with ... "In
my opinion". Apparently, you have much to learn about organic food.

I doubt that you will find out anything better than "... eat a variety of
foods in moderation." If it is all the same to you, I will not waste my
time
reading anything about what to eat or what not to eat. I leave that sort
of
thing to food faddists.
What is it like knowing all that there is to know about anything and


everything? *You really should get up to speed before offering
opinions that contradict what science has learned about the food we
consume. *Although eating a variety of foods in moderation is a
generally a good rule of thumb, there are some foods that I will not
eat even in moderation since such foods adversely impact one's health
over time. *What I have read thus far contradicts yous assertion that
you doubt I will find out anything better than *"... eat a variety of
foods in moderation." *People often have to tailor a diet because of a
particular disease that they have be it high cholesterol, high blood
pressure, diabetes, lactose intolerance coeliac disease, cancer. etc.
I have cancer and knowing what to eat and what not eat is essential.
There are a number of good books that specifically address the issue of
foods and diet for the cancer patient like ... Anti Cancer A new Way
of Life, Nature's Cancer Fighting Foods, Food to Fight Cancer, Natural
Strategies for Patients to name a few good ones. *I have done lots of
my own research about food and diet.

What foods to eat and what foods not to eat in regard to cancer is based on
voodoo science.


You are in much need of an education, but you cant educate someone who
thinks he already know all that there is to know.

It is why doctors don't bother with any of it.



What we have her is a logical fallacy know as a Non Sequitur ("It does
not follow"). This is the of stating, as a conclusion, something that
does not strictly follow from a premise. Actually, many doctors don't
bother with nutrition because many doctors know little about it. One
of the unfortunate intellectual vacuums in conventional medical
training is nutrition. The vast majority of doctors don’t know a great
deal about nutrition because most medical schools don’t teach
nutrition.

Nutrition stores are another royal rip-off. You will get all the minerals and vitamins
you need by eating a variety of foods in moderation.


Must all you unsubstantiated opinion be stated as though factual?
Some of our over farmed soils are known to be depleted of
phytonutrients.

Here are just a few links to get


you up to speed:

No thanks! I have better things to do with my time ... like contemplating my
navel for instance.
[...]


Thanks for proving my point that you think you know all that is worth
knowing and are not open to enlightment. You prove that with almost
every post that you make.

FACT: I have wasted entirely too much time on you. *You are


uninformed, opinionated and have nothing to base your opinions on and
are not even open to being enlightened. *Nor will you invest the time.
Labeling *as "food faddists", a person who is concerned for their
health and endeavors to make healthy choices in the foods they consume
is an absurdity. *How can you be so ignorant? *You can lead a horse to
water, but...

Eat a variety of foods in moderation and you will live as long and healthy
as Nature and Civilization intended. Until just a hundred years ago, most
folks, even in civilized countries, did not live much past their 60's. Third
world peoples still die in their 40's and 50's. If truth be told, I don't
think any of us would live much past 40 if we had to exist in a pure state
of nature (a hunting and food gathering culture).


You are entitle to your opinion as long as it is not stated as
unsubstantiated fact.

Do you know what the average age of those buried in the Roman catacombs from
the 1st and 2nd centuries was? They were in their late 20's! Death was an
every day event until fairly recently. Those of us who make it into our 70's
have achieved some kind of miracle in the light of human history on this
planet.


You are entitle to your opinion as long as it is not stated as
unsubstantiated fact.

I am planning to die of cardiovascular disease myself. In fact, I will be
highly chagrined if cancer gets me first.


Whatever.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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