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Old August 22nd 18, 10:12 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.politics.misc,uk.rec.cycling
Incubus
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Default 'Death by dangerous cycling' law considered

On 2018-08-21, TMS320 wrote:
On 21/08/18 12:22, Incubus wrote:
On 2018-08-21, TMS320 wrote:
On 20/08/18 10:27, Incubus wrote:
On 2018-08-18, TMS320 wrote:



The behaviour of pedestrians towards cyclists on the road is not
relevant to the points I made so it would perhaps serve your
delicate constitution better were you to refrain from introducing
red herrings given the umbrage you take when they are routinely
ignored.

When pedestrians wander aimlessly out in front of a cyclist on the
road, which they don't do to drivers, it is completely relevant in
the context of pedestrian attitudes to cyclists.


In actual fact, some pedestrians do walk out in front of cars and
they are very foolish to do so. Yet what has this to do with the
consideration of a law on death by dangerous cycling?


Mistakes apart, they don't as a general rule.


And what has this to do with the consideration of a law concerning death by
dangerous cycling?

I don't go through red traffic lights and when I go off ROAD on
the bike I am there to potter and enjoy the surroundings. I am
here to take issue with your whingeing.

Ah, so you premuse to be the standard by which all cyclists are
to be judged?

I 'premuse' nothing. I merely told you where I stand.


And what has where you stand got to do with the consideration of a
law on death by dangerous cycling?


I told you that I am replying to your whingeing. A it happens, I haven't
given any opinion on the creation of such a law.


It seems to me that you are rather engaging in 'whinging' and are operating
under the false assumption that projecting such onto me will serve to discredit
me.

I happen to drive, walk and cycle which is clearly far more
than you do.

Your foolish comparisons and personal experience have no bearing
on the matter.

Apart from "I don't have any scary tales of nearly being injured
by cyclists" what personal experience have I related to you?


You just purported to suggest that your driving, walking and cycling
more than I somehow makes you an authority, as though that lends
greater weight to your arguments. As I said, were it the case it
would still have absolutely no bearing on the matter.


Of course it does. It can't possibly have occurred to you that
pedestrians wander about in front of bicycles but don't in front of
motor vehicles.


Pedestrians do wander in front of other vehicles but even if they do so far
less in front of motor vehicles than they do in front of bicycles, it still has
no bearing on the legality of cyclists' conduct and whether there need be a law
to deal with death by dangerous cycling.

Other stuff snipped because it is getting boring.


One may draw whatever conclusions from that as would serve to give a more
likely explanation.
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