On 5/22/2020 11:01 AM, Bertrand wrote:
Frank, you're a moron. On your best day you're a moron. I
live
adjacent to the coast range. I ride the Sierra Nevada
often and I have
ridden over the Rocky Mountains bother in California and in
Washington. You have trouble with the Appalachians in
Pennsylvania?
Are you available for Saturday children's shows?

Tom, Pennsylvania is not flat, at all. It does not have
the altitude
changes of the Sierra Nevada, but along the roads the
hills tend to be
steeper. The Appalachians are not the Rockies, but they
are actual
mountains. Pittsburgh has got to be one of the hilliest
cities in the
US -- hillier than San Francisco, or Seattle, or Portland.

Canton Avenue in Pittsburgh is reputed to be the steepest
public road in the United States:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_Avenue
https://youtu.be/NWXNvuCAxrU




Yes, there's that.

Pennsylvania Railroad coal trains dropping from PA to Ohio
were so beaten up from that descent it kept my grandfather
gainfully employed in their roundhouse all his working life.
It's a formidable drop with a load even at railroad grades.

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Andrew Muzi
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