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Old August 2nd 13, 03:35 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving
Ian Jackson[_2_]
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In message , tim.....
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
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In message , tim.....
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"Phil W Lee" wrote in message
news "Truebrit" considered Mon, 29 Jul 2013
18:04:00 -0400 the perfect time to write:

NY" wrote in message
Turning left/right (delete as applicable) is probably a good
What
do
pedestrian lights show during this time? Green/walk? It needs
pedestrians
to be aware that cars will turn, even if they (cars) *should*
way
to
them.

"Thumper" wrote:
When the pedestrian green man goes out there is about 20-30
seconds before
the traffic lights start to change from red to green. So no
excuse for a
pedestrian to still be crossing.

"Bertie Wooster" wrote:
Is there any legal requirement for pedestrians to wait while the red
symbol is showing? Or do pedestrians have an unrestricted right to
cross the highway (other than motorways and other restricted use
highways)?

Do you not have jaywalking laws?
We have them here and for the most part they are quite vigorously
enforced.
Truebrit.

No such thing as "jaywalking".
It's term invented by american petrolheads to disparage non-motorised
users of the roads.

Pedestrians have a right of way on all public highways.

having a right of way does not mean that you have "priority" access

In the UK, no one has "right of way" on the roads


Yes they do. That's what roads are. Bits of land you have the right
of way to drive a vehicle down (as well as walk down).

Whereas footpaths are bits of land that you have rights of way to walk
down, but not drive down

and bridle paths .....

But being a right of way doesn't means that one user has a priority
right to do their thing over other users.

It just means that the owner of the land can't stick up a sign one day
withdrawing the right to use it (The RoW can only be removed using a
statutory process).

Now you're being a bit silly. The RoW you have decided to drag up, and
having it, is quite different from what is commonly (and wrongly)
referred to as "having right of way" on the public highway. What you
have is "priority" - which is why the Highway Code calls it that.
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Ian
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