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Old February 12th 20, 09:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
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On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 11:27:06 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:03:08 AM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 2/11/2020 6:57 AM, jbeattie wrote:

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Its that whole pesky Constitutional thing and the requirement or reasonable suspicion for a police stop. It has nothing to do with buying a drink, driving a car or opening a bank account.


That darn constitution. Trump thinks that it's some kind of communist
manifesto.


Maybe that is why he is not only enforcing it but putting originalist judges on the Supreme Court. Too bad so many people are blind to enforcing the actual Constitution. Being here illegally gives you absolutely no Constitutional rights. And in fact NO ONE is bothering illegals here that aren't criminals committing crimes. Trump well knows that they add to the economy and that they can be and usually are good citizens. Sanctuary laws are made SPECIFICALLY to protect felons. They prevent state prisons and jails from informing ICE when felons are being released. Democrats are releasing violent criminals into the general population and pretending that is somehow good for America.


Have you even read the Constitution? The Fifth Amendment states that “no person … shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Last time I and SCOTUS looked, a person includes a person -- unless your originalist judges interpret person to mean "citizen" -- which would be adding to the plain language of the Amendment.

Also, sanctuary laws may or may not affect reporting to the NCIS/HSIN. In the Fuentes case, for example, the arrest was reported, and ICE knew that Khan was being held -- and knew where to send the detainer request.

ICE has to know a suspect is being held before it can even send a detainer request, but rather than going to get them, they request a 48 hour hold so they can finish their doughnuts and coffee -- which require jurisdictions to hold suspects after they have been arraigned and posted bail. That is not without risk. ICE also knows where these people live, and if bail has been granted, so does the court and the bondsman. Anyone with access to a court docket can see where the suspect lives, the terms of release, etc., etc. It's not rocket science. Khan and every other released criminal is on the radar.

-- Jay Beattie.

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