On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 04:41:05 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, 12 December 2019 01:46:23 UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:27:48 -0800 (PST), Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 6:32:52 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:

You argument that a large percent of bicycle deaths are "self
inflected" is a bit, well, fallacious, as these died as a result of
what one might very well term "stupidity" rather than deliberation.

Oh, I think most stupidity qualifies as "self inflicted."

It's motto is "Hold my beer and watch this!"

- Frank Krygowski

O.K. I'll agree with that :-)

But there are others... for example those who firmly believe that
riding on the wrong side of the road is safer.
--
cheers,

John B.

And they sometimes do it on a main street in heavy traffic - bicycle as well as vehicle heavy traffic where the wrong direction riding bicyclist is a hazard to others not just themselves.

Cheers.

But didn't your mother tell you when you were a little boy, to always
walk facing the traffic?
--
cheers,

John B.