On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 15:19:00 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 2:59:14 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 2:29:19 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 3:11:11 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 10:20:43 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 5:43:43 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/14/2021 7:20 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 4:15:02 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:01:56 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 11:49:04 +0700, John B.
wrote:

Well, certainly there are various "versions" of the Bible and some of
the instructions are a bit different. "Thou shall not kill" in some
versions and "Thou shall not commit murder" in others for instance

New versions appear constantly. The latest is the MEV (Modern English
Version) which takes the KJV bible and translates the 17th century
idioms and terminology, into modern English. It was finished in 2013.
https://modernenglishversion.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_English_Version

It's the idioms that drive readers nuts. One famous example is from
WWII, when a misunderstanding of the phrase "table the motion" brought
an important military meeting to a grinding halt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_(parliamentary_procedure)
That's just one example, and the bible is crammed full of idioms.

"Thou shalt no kill" is not sufficient in a court of law. Question
arise as to exceptions and killing what? Is it acceptable to
slaughter animals for food? Some attempts have been made to clarify
such details, usually resulting in a bible that reads like a legal
document or history book:
https://gnt.bible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_News_Bible

Incidentally, here's a vocabulary list extracted from the KJV bible:
https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.tbsbibles.org/resource/collection/D1B0BDBE-CD9E-4D12-BBDD-138677F98835/Bible-Word-List-and-Reading-Plan.pdf
Most of the words and phrases on the list are in dire need of
translation to modern terms.
Another thing, regarding the Bible is that of translation. As I have
lived in a number of non-English speaking countries I have been made
aware that literal translations are frequently meaningless, if even
possible, and even worse people often use nicknames and phrases that
when literally translated are far different in meaning then what is
meant by those using them. For example, it is very common,
particularly in Bangkok, to hear a man reference "fan phom" which
literally translated is "friend me" but actually means "my wife", a
somewhat different meaning than the translation.

Given that the Jewish holy books weren't originally written in
English, or Latin, but were likely translated first into Greek, and
then into Latin and then into English the chances of misinterpreting a
word or phrase, or even a loyal advocate of one group or another
simply inserting a totally new word into his copy seems more than
likely.

The Torah or "law" handed down to Moses was in Aramaic. Only scholars could read it for centuries. This was eventually translated from several languages into Latin and then the Bible was only available to priests and monks and the like and again, only scholar could read it. During the reformation the Anglo-Saxons wanted a bible that everyone could read and have and at THAT point it was translated into what passed for Saxon under Martin Luther and finally English as England became the colonial power they passed their Protestant Bible to every corner of the globe where native believers then translated it into local languages. The word "engraver" had the origin in reproducing religious texts.

Moses' Jehovah couldn't manage writing in Hebrew?

Aramaic was a written language and Hebrew was not for many centuries. There were all sorts of "gospels" since like today, people loved to speak of Jesus never having known him. So the Catholic Church had to sort through these gospels and decide which had authority and which did not. And they were all translated into Latin.
https://patternsofevidence.com/2019/...irst-alphabet/
"the first Hebrew writing is called “Old Hebrew” or “Paleo-Hebrew.”
This is known from inscriptions found from about 900 BC in the
kingdoms of Israel and Judah until the destruction of the Temple in
Jerusalem and the exile of many of Judah’s inhabitants to Babylon
around 586 BC."
Since you're the expert in a religion you know nothing about perhaps you'd like to explain to us why the Torah is written in Aramaic and is read by scholars that way to the present day?
Uh, Tom, it was written in Hebrew. Google it. I know this from going to friend sons' Bar Mitzvahs and seen those stressed out boys struggle through their Hebrew Torah reading.
Originally old Hebrew was not a written language which is why the Torah that Moses brought down from the mountain from the burning bush was in the language that Moses was fluent in. Question: Since there was no such thing as paper at that time and papyrus could only be found near the River Nile, where did Moses get the papyrus upon which to write down the words of God directly? And where did he get the coloring with which to write? Ink was only known in China at the time.

Tommy, do you make things up deliberately? Or does it come to you in a
dream.

Moses quite obviously must have spoken the Egyptian of his times,
after all he was educated as a part of a member of the Egyptian
royalty. And equally obvious he must have spoken the language of God,
who spoke to him from the burning bush, probably ancient Hebrew.
As for paper, the first known use of paper seems to date from about
225 B.C., in China so obviously Moses couldn't have used that.
However, the earliest known fragment of written papyrus, The Ebers
Papyrus, dates from approximately 1550 B.C.

As Moses was said to have lived from about 1391–1271 BC, some 200
years after papyrus had been used in Egypt there is no reason that he
couldn't have written God's Word on that "paper".

Now Tommy, the above is not some sort of archaic knowledge known to a
few initiates it is rather commonly known, to those interested in the
subject. I googled the term "The Ebers Papyrus" and got 440,000 "hits"
so you could have looked it up and have spoken from a background of at
least minimal knowledge instead of the subject instead of your usual
blathering of weird notion that is your usual contribution.
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Cheers,

John B.