On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 10:49:40 -0800, Tom Kunich scribed:

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:59:52 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/16/2021 4:54 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:

My mother's name was Herz which is nothing more than one of the many
spelling variations of Hertz, Hertzl , Herzle etc. which was the
Austrian Royal Family. What isn't a matter of discussion is that
Moses spoke Aramaic even if he could understand Hebrew. He also spoke
and understood middle Egyptian and Median. Moses received not just
the Ten Commandments but the Torah or "law" We have that until today.
The Talmud is a scholarly interpretation of the Torah and the
prophesies of Moses.

So was her name Herz or Habsburg?
--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I certainly didn't pull that out of my hat, or from some vague family
rumor: that was discovered on an internet search trying to discover
something about my grandfather whom the only thing I know about is a
picture of him bouncing me on his knee when I was a baby. I considered
it comical since there are no Royal Families accepted in this country
but the English house. I don't think that Habsburg was a name but a
place in Switzerland and the name was something like John of Habsburg or
the like. I think I gave the source at the time I discovered it. I can't
find any reference at this time. Perhaps it was more Ancestry.com
bull****. They would have a great deal of trouble tracing my heritage
because so many people entered this country illegally. In the late
1800's you had to enter through the Port of New York, the Port of
Seattle and the Port of San Francisco where you could register as an
immigrant and file for citizenship. Since most people entered from
elsewhere they had to file at these places for citizenship and if you
were illiterate you bypassed that. Inasmuch as your children were
automatically citizens and there was no such thing as ICE in those days
it really didn't much matter.

The best place to start finding out your family history is to talk to all
the relatives you can. tape it if you can, because this allows the
conversation to flow with out you stopping to write notes and
interrupting flow of thought

The next place is the official and other records. This art can get a bit
expensive (looked for share cert sites) as you may need all of birth,
marriage and death records for each person. The gold mine can be the
other information recorded and this is where 'church' records can be
helpful.

All my UK antecedents had left by the time official records started and
mostly the "records" were priests reports to the Bishop, but the
occasional surviving priest record book would also include the male
grandfather on children's birth entry. thus enabling that families tree
to be walked back.

You may also need to search shipping records, but these can be very
patchy. I picked up one families emigration from Scotland to Australia,
because the whole family was listed on the passenger list.

Look for multiple sources for everything. The last thing you want to
accept is anything listed at Ancestry. Even the LDS familysearch
site(derived from bishops reports,but also contributed expansions) has
fake records. According to one idiot on geni.com, our family has roots
going back to the Kings of Wessex.

Those family reminiscences I suggested first are the most useful when you
get stumped. especially when they verbatim repeat stuff they have been
told or overheard. These often give clues of where to look when you don't
know where to start, but grain of salt.

As always, YMMV, but I've managed to build family back over ten
generations through 'records', but a BIL only has three as all records
went up in flames in WWII.

Have fun.