On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 18:41:51 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Wednesday, 15 January 2020 21:15:56 UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:01:35 -0800, "Mark J."
wrote:

On 1/15/2020 2:51 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:10:27 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 1/15/2020 4:58 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

Here in Canada we have all sorts of gun control laws but they don't seem to keep the guns out of the hands of criminals or soon to be criminals; they just keep or remove them from the hands of law abiding citizens.

Really? Your gun laws don't work?

Look at some comparative data:
https://www.nationmaster.com/country.../Violent-crime

No laws are perfect. But that doesn't mean laws are useless. It looks to
me like Canada's gun laws are doing a pretty good job - or at least, way
better than those of the U.S.

Yup, make a law and everyrthing will come up roses...

But Frank, if that is true why is it that Vermont, with it's nearly
non existant gun laws has a murder by firearms rate of 1.3/100,000
while Washing D.C. with rather restrictive gun laws has a firearm
murder rate of 18/100,000?

Could the fact that DC is essentially 100% urban and Vermont is the
second most rural state [1] be germane?

[1] Per
https://vermontbiz.com/news/march/gr...ond-most-rural

PS - Maybe we could argue about greased tapers, disc brakes, or -gasp-
even helmets? It would be a little more on-topic.

Mark J.

There are undoubtidly many reasons why Washington, D.C., for example,
has a high firearm murder rate and populatiion density may well be a
part of it.

My reply was specifically to Franks assertion that if we could just
have more gun law that everything would be wonderful, wonderful. I was
pointing out that simply passing laws does not solve a problem.
--
cheers,

John B.

Yes it does. It disarms the law abiding citizens so that the criminals won't have any opposition when committing crimes. LOL

The way things are here the criminals have more rights under the law than what their victims do.

Cheers

I've frequently mentioned that Singapore, as an example, has laws to
protect society while the U.S.has laws to protect the individual.
--
cheers,

John B.