Op dinsdag 18 mei 2021 om 02:22:54 UTC+2 schreef jbeattie:
On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:05:58 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Op maandag 17 mei 2021 om 19:39:41 UTC+2 schreef :
Colnago CLX3.0 bare - 15.8 lbs
Lemond Zurich bare - 20.3 lbs
Douglas Vector with seatpack. - 17.4
Douglas Ti with water bottle and seat pack. - 20.3 lbs.
Eddy Merckx with bottle half full and heavy seatpack - 20.8

My 2018 Trek Emonda bare was 17.5 lbs.

As you can see, aluminum bikes do not necessary have a weight penalty.. Nor are titanium bikes particularly light.

I would say that since about 2001 that most decent bikes couldn't be declared as "heavy". The complete Look KG585 which was a light climbing bike was 16 lbs even bare.
With off the shelf parts 2014 and a heavy saddle:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/N8frpRqH5fuj2tuA6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PMxriEU7B8VVnMieA
Still my climbing bike,
Impressive. I get that it is light which makes it easier to ascend, but do you lose performance elsewhere? My Emonda SLR was Trek's bleeding edge light bike, and it is clearly not the last word in sprinting stiffness -- but since my sprint could be clocked with a calendar, its no big loss. Oddly, my relative boat-anchor Synapse "endurance" bike is basically stiffer everywhere and has a more harsh road feel, although that is mitigated with 28mm tires.

BTW, your garage operating room is again impressive. I wouldn't know how to work in such a clean, well organized and lighted space. It would be disorienting. I'm acclimated to the dim, industrial revolution feel of my garage and basement shop.

-- Jay Beattie.

That bike is a joy to ride uphill and is very stable downhill. I never had any problem with stiffness or lack off with any bike I had. I'm not a sprinter either, you would probably beat me. If one is coming from a heavy bike, lets say 9.5 kg, you have to get used to riding a 6.7 kg bike but that takes just a couple of rides. For me that moment has passed 15 years ago. On the flats my default bike is my Aeroad, but I ride the dirtiest bike at a given moment. At the moment it is the Ultimate until that one needs a cleaning. Bad weather bike in the summer is also the Ultimate (aluminum rims and rim brakes). My Moots is my bad weather road bike in the winter and a gravel bike in the summer. I don't like ATB. Glad I could sell both for a reasonable price. Off road I use a cross bike. I have nothing to wish for now.

My garage, ah well. When I bought my house I practiced my DIY skills in the garage. Plumbing, electro wiring, tiling, plastering, painting, woodwork etc. I ended up with a nice garage and DIY skills. Over the years some tweaking took place ;-)

Lou