better yet get him to buy some Race Face NORTH SHORE cranks... guaranteed
for the life of the original owner.


"Rocketman" wrote in message
news:MzRyb.277206$ao4.951523@attbi_s51...
"News Subsystem" wrote in message
...
what about large people who want something strong? SOmeone I know has
snapped 5 crank sets just from the sheer power of his pedalling, he
has had to spend over 7 times the amount of money buying his bike than
i have buying mine cause he needs something really strong

Which five crank sets has your friend snapped? (brand/model) What makes
you
think that XTR won't also snap? Why on earth would you think that getting
the lightest crank would be the same as getting the strongest crank? It
doesn't work like that. XTR cranks will snap under stress. Being XTRa
Xpensive doesn't allow them to violate the laws of physics and material
engineering.

Your XXX large friend needs to try some of the welded tubular CrMo steel
cranks out there. They're about 1/3 the price of XTR, and very, very
tough.
Have a look at the FSA X-Drive or the AC 454 DH cranks. I'd be shocked if
he
could even bend them, much less break them. He might also be a prime
candidate for the new - and breathtakingly expensive - Shimano Saint DH/FR
components. This may be the only high-end racing-oriented
highly-specialized component group in history that sells *because* it is
heavy. Saint seems ready-made for the big mashers and big-air crazies
that
snap cranks and axles, and ruin rear derailleurs against boulders. It's
*very* expensive; but at least it's solving a problem that actually
exists,
and saving a trip to the hospital with gaping wounds from a razor-sharp
crank stub gashing open your calf. Gotta say, if it keeps you out of the
hospital once, it's worth the whole price of admission.

Rocketman





On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:37:31 CST, "Rocketman"
wrote:

XTR M960 Cranks: $450
XTR M960 Brifters: $275
XTR M960 Rear Derailleur: $123
XTR M960 9sp Cassette: $142
XTR M960 Rear Disc Hub: $192

HA HA HA HA! Nobody is gonna buy this stuff, are they?

The weight weenies with more money than sense are gonna line up to drop
$2k+
on the new XTR line. Does the phrase "diminishing returns" mean
anything
to
them? I'm betting it doesn't. Shimano is trying to see how much they
can
get
the logo whores to pay for ugly, trendy bike parts. It's not jewelry,
but
it's priced like gold.

The new XTR is partially based on 11-year-old technology. Several
companies
offered similar crank and BB designs in 1992, most notably Magic
Motorcycle;
but also Bullseye, Sweet Wings and Syncros a few years later. Shimano
has
been borrowing 1993 Magic Motorcycle crank technology for a while now
(square-splined BB, outboard bearings, hollow crankarms). The only
thing
marginally new are the M960 shifters, and they're just a rehash of Dura
Ace.

Meanwhile, all of Shimano's other component lines are going up in
price.
Last season, I bought the new DuraAce mid-cage rear derailleur for $53
from
JensonUSA. Right now, JensonUSA lists DuraAce 7800 rear derailleurs
for
$146!! LX cranks that sold for $59 are now $83. M753 XT cranks were
$119.
The new XT cranks are $249!! That, folks, is a HUGE increase. Your
next
bike will cost a *lot* more than your last bike did. Low-priced Shimano
sources are drying up quickly. If you're thinking of stocking up, do it
very
soon.

Is Shimano begging us to switch to SRAM, or what?

Rocketman

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