"NY" wrote in message
o.uk...
"Truebrit" wrote in message
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Turning left/right (delete as applicable) is probably a good one. What do
pedestrian lights show during this time? Green/walk? It needs pedestrians
to be aware that cars will turn, even if they (cars) *should* give way to
them.
When the pedestrian green man goes out there is about 20-30 seconds before
the traffic lights start to change from red to green. So no excuse for a
pedestrian to still be crossing.