On 8/3/2019 4:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/3/2019 11:55 AM, jbeattie wrote:
... even a sensible Democrat is clearly superior to the insane asylum the Left has conjured up out of the fraudulent "oppression" of tiny minorities, who together cannot account for rolling a single log...

Agreed. And I think lots of people agree.

Murder is definitional -- and if it is licensed, it is not murder. Whether one can murder a fetus in the US varies from state to state. The religious and historical prohibition on murder was to maintain social peace and order. The Fifth Commandment did not apply to a fetus, at least not absolutely and not according to the Jews -- whose God god wrote the rule (although the original was lost for many years until found by Stephen Spielberg.) Regrettably, Catholics and conservative Christians have pushed for prohibition as an article of faith and without regard to what becomes of the fetus once born, and in fact Christian conservatives bemoan the "welfare state."

I disagree with that final sentence. At least around here, there are
many church-based institutions that care for women and children, and
there are ongoing congregational charity drives for them. We contribute.

I'm talking about the Christian right and its approach to state welfare. https://scholarworks.wmich.edu/cgi/v...1&context=jssw
This has nothing to do with charitable giving -- which is great -- but accounts for a small fraction of total welfare costs.

You're still wrong when you include Catholics in "without regard to what
becomes of the fetus once born." You're mistakenly treating Catholics as
one unified bloc marching in step. And you're ignoring the Church's
general attitude toward social safety nets, as well as the immense
(really, unequaled) amount of charity work done by institutions and
people connected with the Church.


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- Frank Krygowski