On 27/03/2019 13:44, GB wrote:

I've got an Android 7 phone that does include GPS. Unfortunately, I'm
far, far too mean to pay for mobile data, and I haven't found a decent
sat nav programme that allows downloading maps in advance.

Can I ask what people here use, and what they think of it, please?
Obviously, it's off topic to ask this on a cycling NG, but it makes a
change from bickering about whether cycling is a good thing or not.

Sat navs often seem to find stupid routes, leaving sign posted main
roads to go down narrow country lanes just because it has determined it
to be 3 inches shorter.

I drive a minibus for a charity and want the most comfortable route for
the people behind me. I can't use a Garmin because although it will get
me there I can't just turn it on and go. I have to go over the route
beforehand and set the way points in a tablet. With Google it can be
downloaded for off line use.

A gripe I have is that I *don't* want speed camera warnings, even when I
am driving my own car. They are easily visible and rarely placed where
the speed is not intuitive. I can't find any means in Google to turn
them off (and it isn't intelligent enough to only warn when the limit is
being broken).