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Old July 16th 19, 12:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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Default The American Fascist Party can't all be cyclists!

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 07:22:09 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 8:08:17 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 9:17:15 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 16:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 3:19:14 PM UTC-7, Chalo wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:

Chalo wrote:
Bad cops drove away good cops a long time ago. What's left is either criminals under color of authority, or those who'll acquiesce to/support the criminals.

Not where I live.

Maybe you can provide an example of one of your presumed good cops outing a bad cop?

Cops who won't enforce the law against other cops are bad cops and bad humans.

You are working on the assumption that there are bad cops and so no reports of cops reporting cops means that they are all bad.

That is the 9-year-old method of looking at the world. Cops have slightly different laws that they abide by than you. Tell us that a cop seeing a suspect pulling his hand rapidly out from behind him when told to raise his hands and the cop shooting the suspect because he saw a glint in the dark backyard some person's backyard at night has THE RIGHT to answer with lethal force. You don't like it? Tough.

"Cops have slightly different laws that they abide by than you."?

They do? I had thought in the U.S. that police obeyed the applicable
federal and state laws, but now you tell us that they have special
laws, one assumes peculiar only to police?

We'll have to ask the resident lawyer here whether that is true or
not. After all when the cops were caught banging away on old Rodney,
there, it seemed like that had failed to obey California State laws,
not "cop laws".

Or should we just chalk this up to yet another of Tom's fantasies ?


Sorry, but I agree with Tom on this one. The laws that apply to cops are
different, at least to a degree, than the ones that apply to civilians. As just one
example, they can carry deadly equipment into places you or I could not. As
another, the cop that shot a rabid raccoon in my yard was allowed to discharge
a gun in the village. I am not. They can use lights and sirens on their cars,
but I can't... etc.

- Frank Krygowski


Cops do not have to follow ANY traffic laws. Even to the point of driving opposite traffic.


As a general statement that is utter Bull ****!

Had you said something like: Most states permit law enforcement
officers to violate traffic laws only when their car is displaying
red/blue emergency lights and/or a siren (some states require both;
some, one or the other). As a matter of custom and practice, law
enforcement officers are generally allowed to violate traffic laws for
a legitimate police purpose.

I would have agreed.

And, of course, the Highway Code,in most all States state something
like drivers should, "look and listen for ambulances, fire engines,
police, doctors or other emergency vehicles using flashing blue, red
or green lights and sirens or flashing headlights, or traffic officer
and incident support vehicles using flashing amber lights." and if
necessary take appropriate action to let it pass.
--
cheers,

John B.

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