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Old April 12th 19, 10:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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Default Cyclists triggering red light cameras

On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:49:05 +1000, James
wrote:

On 12/4/19 4:21 pm, AK wrote:
On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 9:25:43 PM UTC-5, James wrote:
On 12/4/19 9:07 am, AK wrote:
I was looking up whether a cyclist can get a ticket.

And found this

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...391955121.html

I see a lot of cyclists running stop signs.

That sets a bad example.


Many motorists complain about cyclists running red lights, so
researchers did some researching.

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/...an-drivers-do/

Bad examples aside, it is also worth remembering that someone on a
bicycle who disobeys a red light really only puts themselves at risk.
I'm yet to read of a car v bike crash where the car driver suffers
injuries other than perhaps psychological.

However when a motorist disobeys a red light they endanger all other
road users and themselves.

There is a distinct difference in the level of risk.

--
JS


I think you are forgetting some things.

If a cyclist blows thru a red light and is struck by a car, don't you think the driver will be at least a tad bit traumatized?


Read again what I wrote.


There is no valid excuse for cyclists to run lights and stop signs.


Yes there is. There are many places I've encountered where the buried
vehicle sensors do not reliably detect bicycles, and as a consequence it
is necessary to ignore the lights and proceed with caution.


Andy

And while I am at it....

Cyclists should ride close to the curb while in bike lanes.

I have seen some who ride close to the car lane and have been clipped by a cars side mirror.

Whenever there is a contest between car and bike, the outcome is ALWAYS the same. The cyclist loses. It don't matter if you had the right of way, etc.



Oh dear. You probably won't be very popular with a number of people who
chat on this news group with opinions like that.


James, are you saying that in a bicycle/auto collision the car comes
off worse? Or if the bicycle has the right of way in a collision the
bicycle won't get damaged more than the auto?
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cheers,

John B.

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