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Old November 6th 18, 07:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_2_]
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Default Oregon judge: Bike lanes don't continue through intersections

On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:28:04 AM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 7:36:24 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 9:38:09 AM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 6:15:49 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
According to an Oregon judge, bike lanes don't legally exist in
intersections.

It's a bit odd, because car lanes do, even though (for practical
reasons) they are not marked. If you are driving in a lane just before
an intersection, you are expected to stay in that same unmarked lane
within the intersection and drive in the same lane past the
intersection. On a four-lane road, a motorist to your left is not
allowed to smash into you by changing lanes mid-intersection.

For a bike lane, this judge says it's different:
https://bikeportland.org/2018/10/17/...FVWPMeZZbRZuqo

This sounds like an excellent reason to leave the bike lane before an
intersection and claim the normal vehicle lane.

Yes, although AFRAP still applies.


As Far Right as Practicable should not require someone to endanger themselves.
Seems to me that riding straight while at the right side blind spot of someone
who may turn right is endangering one's self.

I never see "straight ahead" motor vehicle lanes striped to the right of
"right turn" lanes. They do that nonsense only with bike lanes.


I do take the lane behind a truck although at some red lights, I will squeeze by when there is a bike box. As for AFRAP, I was not thinking of the turning scenario but rather the usual bike riding through an intersection. Getting out of the bike lane alignment to cross through an intersection with no turning traffic would be odd and result in bikes bobbing in and out of traffic.


We have blessedly few bike lanes and no mandatory bike lane law. But I have no qualms about leaving one for any reason. For example, about half a mile away
is a bike lane that's striped right up to an intersection where almost all
passing motorists turn right. I'm absolutely never in that bike lane.

If getting out of the bike lane required bobbing in and out of traffic, I think
I'd just stay out of it.

BTW, I'm spending a lot of time in the lanes these days because of the wet leaf heaps in the bike lanes. It's a dangerous time of the year. I'm waiting for the street sweepers to appear.


We had rain and heavy winds last night and this morning. There are wet leaves
everywhere.

Unfortunately, in my metro area, we'll have to wait until spring to see street
sweepers. :-(

- Frank Krygowski
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