On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:41:30 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:45:23 +0000, David Hansen
said in
:

I remember the "changing web pages" saga, where you well and truly
nailed him.
Utterly wrong.

David, I'm pretty sure that "Bob Jones" is judith, since I have yet
to see anyone, even those who assume good faith, accept her version
of "the page that never changed"
(http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/The_page_that_never_changed).


Ah yes - the page that never changed - it doesn't matter how you try
and dress things up Chapman - the basics of the story are still the
same.

On 13 August Chapman said:

"I have never said that I encourage my children to wear helmets." "I
would challenge judith to find the place where I said I encourage
my children to wear helmets."

I found and gave the reference to a page on Chapman's web-pages which
categorically, clearly stated :

"I encourage my children to wear them"

On about the 13 or 14 August Chapman then changed the page to say it
was out of date and only kept for historical reasons.

A simple question for Chapman which he categorically refuses to
answer:

If you looked at that single web page on 12 August and then you looked
at it again on 14 Augusts would the pages be identical.

He will not answer - because the answer is NO - because he changed
the page as a result of the "discussion" with me.

Here is the post where judith acknowledges that her assertion has no
source:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.cycling/msg/7d42a1b927404ace


Rubbish - it does no such thing.
My assertion clearly has a source - do you think I've made up the
following extract from a web page?

And now one more simple question for Chapman:
Is the bit I quote below from cyclehelmet.org's early web-pages? - yes
or no will suffice.

:
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MAINPAGE. Sidebar with links to the (colloquial) FAQ “helpful or
harmful”, the (formal) summary, to chapter headings, and to other
links.


BICYCLE HELMET RESEARCH CENTRE (or other title)


(nice pictures, maybe one of Steve Norris?)

Message: Helmets are not beneficial to cyclists (unless the evidence
forces us to a dramatically different conclusion.)

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judith

--
I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman)
I have never said that I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy
Chapman)
I would challenge judith to find the place where I said I encourage
my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman)
I pointed out the web page
He then quickly changed the web page - but "forgot" to change the date
of last amendment so it looked like the change had been there for
years.