On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:33:42 +0100, Phil W Lee
wrote:

Lou Holtman considered Fri, 26 Sep 2014
21:40:50 +0200 the perfect time to write:

Phil W Lee wrote:
Lou Holtman considered Fri, 26 Sep 2014
07:37:25 +0200 the perfect time to write:

Phil W Lee schreef op 25-9-2014 22:45:
Joerg considered Wed, 24 Sep 2014
09:50:07 -0700 the perfect time to write:

wrote:
SLIDING BACK is more dirt motion than road grip.


It is about not going over the bars when you have to reach into the
front brake hard.


... With road contact
motion to side, inside best but go with the flow. Adding a sideways
weight vector should stay a trip over bars into at worst a fly by.


A sideways slide? That sure would be impressive, coming to a stop in a
plume of blue smoke on the road, but I wouldn't dare. Plus a tire might
come off. On mountain bikes it may be needed, like with a friend whose
front brake faded out during the last 100ft of a steep downhill section.
He set it sideways and came to a stop in an impressive dust plume.

If you meant while still going in a straight line that would just make
you sail off the bike a few inches lower but you'd still go off and the
bike will likely endo as well. You can't get much of a CG shift this way.


Last endo on asphalt was at speed after a fine day cycling up and
down a canyon, with cliff, from inexperience with the setup grabbing
brake levers to lift front wheel over a speed bump.


Some European bikes had (have?) the front brake on the right. That can
scare the daylights out of a rider not used to it.

Why on earth would you want it anywhere else?
It's a universal standard for two wheelers, that is only broken in a
very few countries for bicycles, and in none at all for motorcycles.

Switch your brake cables to the correct sides, get used to it now, and
stop using dangerous brake setups.
That way you'll never need to re-learn again.


This is as asking the UK to drive on the right side of the road.
We/I are used to left/front. No need to change that.

Good luck learning to ride a motorcycle.
Putting the front brake on the wrong side just made that far more
difficult.
And in emergency braking, old reflexes are liable to kick in, making a
bad situation worse.

We manage. Riding a motorcycle is a different mindset you have also a
clutch and a throttle to manage. You make it sound as if front/left is rare
on a bicycle or difficult/dangerous in an emergency situation. It is not.

In most of the world, it's beyond rare - it's non-existent.
Remember the Asian market dwarfs the rest of the world put together,
and that's ALL right front (as is Africa, but that's not such a huge
market).

But it is all a tempest in a teapot, isn't it.

Or is there some mechanical, physical or psychological reason for
having a break actuator in any particular place? The bikes that I
first rode the brake actuator built into the pedal system - pedal
forward and the bike went ahead; pedal backward and it stopped.
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Cheers,

John B.