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Old November 19th 17, 06:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Opinions of Gates Carbon Drive system?

Both the Pope automobile and the Pope bicycle were made and priced as rich men's toys, before cars and bikes became commodities. The Pope was a quality vehicle and was supposedly a lot more dependable than many other cars of the time.

Interestingly (for any of you who are ham radio operators), Hiram Percy Maxim, W1AW (the founder of the American Radio Relay League) was Pope's chief automobile engineer.

A 1911 Pope-Hartford cost $2,750 new, but by 1922 cars had become more like commodities and there were cars such my Dodge Brothers touring car:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sbk1voje3d...heels.jpg?dl=0

which, although not as fancy as an earlier Pope, were built with quality, had leather upholstery and sold for only $885. In those intervening 11 years, cars like the DB became even more dependable and a lot more like a modern car to drive.
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