On 02/07/2019 10:50, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:46:54 GMT, TMS320 wrote:

On 01/07/2019 12:39, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/07/2019 11:43, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 10:18:58 GMT, TMS320 wrote:

On 01/07/2019 10:55, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/07/2019 10:40, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

Why do big box drivers ignore speed limits?

Why do cyclists ignore all the rules of both the road and common
sense?

Remarkable, but not surprising, that motorists love to dodge the
question.

You have a favourite statistic (even though it is meaningless, but
let's run with it), that cyclists harm the same number of
pedestrians per vehicle mile as drivers. In other words, all this
alleged law breaking by cyclists creates no additional harm. There
is no possible moral argument for demanding that the individual's
choice should produce a different outcome.

The drivers know it's bad (pollution deathrate etc) but mustn't let
themselves know this, so feel threatened by anything that shows them
in a bad light. It's a denial thing.



I can guarantee that if I were to take a short journey locally, 99
percent of the cyclists will be breaking one or many laws,

Even if this is right, so what?

How many motorists did they kill?

despite their
tiny numbers (probably a dozen in a three mile journey).ÂÂ* Whereas
the vast majority of the hundreds of motor vehicles seen in the same
distance will not be noticeably breaking laws and are easily traced
and apprehended if they do.

Whereas 100% of drivers are a significant source of danger to
pedestrians. Before they break any laws.

I also note that despite this being a cycling group you continually
try to move it to a driving group, why is that?ÂÂ* are you too
embarassed to admit that uk cyclists are a terrible shower of
scofflaws?

What do you expect?


When idiots come in this group slagging off cyclists, what do you expect?




So, logically, if you want to slag off car drivers, then surely you
would go to a driving group?