Zebee Johnstone wrote:

Were those bods going at the previous speed limit? Or were they
riding above that limit?

I can safely bet my last breath that they would have been above it. Goof
balls somehow manage to collide with trees on straight sections of road
and the poor trees get blamed for causing their death.

It really is a pity that police estimates of speed before the accident
are not made public as routine.

If you drove the old Pacific Highway at the old limits, including curve
advisories there was exceedingly little chance of you having an accident
that was caused by yourself. Occassionally you did need to drive lower
because the prevailing conditions required it, e.g. Morning/late night
fog over Mooney bridge was always a good one.