On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 09:15:38 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 00:42:24 -0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote:

As I previously said, if one has a bike one doesn't need a car :-)

I'm not the "one" that can do it. I've previously mentioned my
attempts to do service calls on my bicycle. The technical problems
were easy. The stupid problem (strange bus transport rules,
unattended security, parts thieves, and potential damage to
electronics going over bumps) were not so easy.

I live about 1 mile from the main highway up a mostly paved road.
Checking Google Earth, there is an elevation rise of 465 ft. Average
slope is therefo
465 / 5280 = 8.8%
I can barely ride a bicycle up the hill. I find myself walking quite
often. I could not even imagine climbing the hill with a trailer full
of groceries, much less hauling a refrigerator (250-350 lbs). To be
fair, 50 years ago, I might have been able to do it, but not today.

It might be possible to survive without a car if the roads were all
flat, but in my area, very little is flat.


So, you are saying that no one lived in the area until automobiles
were available?
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Cheers,

John B.