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Old July 12th 19, 05:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_5_]
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On Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 7:50:32 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 12:29:23 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/video/angry-biker...matic-protest/

Includes (predictably) editorial snark about hats


Interesting data point in that video: Last year 111 pedestrians were killed, a
4.7% increase. As always, that's _far_ above the number of dead cyclists.

But they somehow neglected to say about the peds, "Many without helmets.."

Vaguely related: Yesterday Streetsblog (IIRC) posted a rabble rousing rant about
"Police using deadly force." Most of the commenters seemed to want every police
officer hung.


Seemed. Who cares?

I gather there is some problem with police attitude toward NYC bicyclists - as
in, when a cyclist is killed (say, from a right hook crash with an irresponsibly
driven truck) the NYC cops respond by ticketing only cyclists, even if the
dead cyclist broke no law. That's wrong, IMO.

But the Streetsblog event was different. A guy on a bikeshare bike crashed red
light after red light, ignoring the cop following in a cruiser order him to stop
the bike. The biker kept looking back at the cop, but riding on, through light after light.

The cop finally cut into the bike lane ahead of the rider and stopped. The biker
ran into the cop car. Streetsglob called that "Deadly force."


"ahead of the rider and stopped"? Nope, that would yield a different pictu
https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2019/07/07/nypd-used-deadly-force-to-stop-cyclist-suspected-of-running-red-light/

Apparently, they wanted instead for the cop to share donuts with the jerk on the
bike. Apparently, no bicyclist should ever be asked to obey a traffic law.


Apparently, the weather at your place isn't suitable to take a walk or spin
to vent.

A lot of bicycle advocacy is absolutely nuts these days.


The lack of adequate police tactic and training in dealing with actual or
imagined traffic violations of non-cagers is a human rights issue. Would
you call pedestrian advocates nuts if they criticized running Police SUVs
into jaywalkers?


Perhaps you or I could judge this case a great deal easier with actual knowledge of the case. Running red lights is a no-no under any conditions and with anyone regardless of experience. I found myself frightening people yesterday by what appeared to be running red lights but under California law wasn't. At T-intersections with a continuous bike lane you are allowed to go through a red light. Of course this requires people turning left to stay in their lane which most people find impossible to do. In fact, here most people turning left require both right lanes and the bike lanes to complete a left turn.

But I have watched bicyclist ride directly through red lights with heavy cross traffic slamming on their brakes. So I do not believe moronic articles by bicycle "advocacy groups" because their reports are invariably distorted..
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