Lou Holtman wrote:
On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 5:48:02 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 8:45:36 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
My Continental 4 seasons came in yesterday and I can't tell you how
wonderful it was to take my Campagnolo Siroccos out into the garage and
mount tires in a couple of minutes. That tubeless wheel is still siting
over in the corner with the tire only partially mounted. I will NEVER
EVER get another tubeless rim again. They can shove their tubeless
tires where the sun don't show and my intentions are to never believe
gimmicks again unless they are far less physically demanding like my
Garmin which changes the speedo from the front wheel to the rear and
gives me all sorts of added information such as how many calories I
burned - 36 miles and 2900 feet of climbing is worth one cookie. Lord help me!
I got an additional tool in the mail yesterday and took it down in the
garage to try and mount the Continental GP5000TLR on to the tubeless
wheel. The result was that it cracked the carbon wheel. So yet another
reason to go back to aluminum clinchers and clincher-only tires. I now
have four Aero carbon wheels that have either been destroyed by
delamination from SLIGHTLY too much inflation pressure or been cracked
from the mounting stress of putting these new "tubeless tires" on them.

Another thing - the first set of GP5000TLR's mounted slightly easier so
I was running them for perhaps 800 miles and the cord was showing
through. Now these are racing tires with exceptional traction and that
should come as no surprise but be aware that they are NOT good for
training or sport riding.

Perhaps this is why the normal GP5000 clincher tires are not very
popular. People who fancy themselves racers generally use sew-ups
because the pros do and not because they know why the pros do.

The clincher GP5000 is the most popular tire on this side of the pond.
From my experience they have excellent wear characteristics. My front
tire already has done 11500 km and I replaced my rear tire after 4500 km
after my first flat. I'm on my second rear tire now for 11500-4500 = 7000
km (yes I can't believe it myself) and it needs to be replaced. I will do
that after my first flat. I have a new one ready from the beginning of
this season; still waiting for that flat. Up to now it is exceptional dry this season.

Lou


Sounds great. I have a pair of GP5000s waiting for my 4000s to wear out.
I’m hoping the 5000s are as flat resistant as the 4000s.