On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 8:52:33 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/27/2020 1:01 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, 27 January 2020 12:00:41 UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 8:22:56 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Decline in bicycling? Gosh, how can that be, with the constant
construction of new "safe" facilities? (Actually, as a facility skeptic,
I think I can answer that question.)


The article ties the drop in commuter ridership to the fear of traffic and the highest bicycle death rate in the nation. You are now treading in that area between perceived danger and actual danger. It may actually suck to ride on surface streets to commute to work in Tampa as opposed to riding on one of the MUPs or linear park trails, which typically don't get you where you need to go as a commuter.

The more interesting question is why a drop if the roads were equally dangerous in 2017. We had a drop in PDX, but nothing has changed -- except maybe car traffic has gotten worse. What we need is a survey to find out why people who rode in 2017 aren't riding in 2019. It could be reasons totally unrelated to road conditions, e.g. working from home.

-- Jay Beattie.

Perhaps in Florida it's because of drivers who plow into a group of 15+ bicyclist of which 2 die of injuries; and the driver doesn't even get charged with reckless driving although she was 10+ MPH over the speed limit and was not looking at the road in front of her at the time she hit them?

It's talked about in t his thread.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ch/5abS9erOsto

I think a big part of many giving up bicycling on roads is the perceived dangers posed by distracted drivers and the extremely lenient sentences those drivers get if they hit or hit and kill a bicyclist. Distracted driving seems to be increasing yearly and the penalties for it if someone is hit are ridiculously light.

One might hold that USA is too lenient for inattentive
automobile pilots (and I'd agree). Then there's CH, a
different culture entirely!

https://www.ticinonews.ch/svizzera/4...ni-di-prigione

German tourist cycling in Switzerland dumps his bike,
breaking a rib. Swiss police track him down and fine him 150
Swiss Francs for 'not being in control of vehicle' on public
roads. He won't pay and takes the two days in jail instead.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

The Fremdenpolizei are a law onto their own. The keep special rat-infested cells for illegal aliens. If you think I'm joking, ask the banker who hides your money in a numbered Swiss account. Seems to me that the US could do with an infusion of the Fremdenpolizei spirit.

Andre Jute
How can you have a nation if it doesn't have borders?