On 7/3/2020 5:10 PM, wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 1:58:03 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:15 PM, wrote:
Remembering that I am 6'4" tall. The bike weights are somewhat informative.

1. 2018 Emonda with Aero carbon wheels and Ultegra Di2 60 cm Saddle flat repair kit and full large water bottle full. 21.28 lbs.

1998 Basso Loto no bottle, pedals or saddle pack Campy 10 speed and Fulcrum aluminum wheels. 62 cm 20.78 lbs.

2006 (??) Lemond Zurich 58cm no water bottle or pack Campy 10 speed. 55 mm aero carbon wheels, Look Delta pedals Reynolds oversize 853 tubes 19.78 lbs

2012 Trek Madone 60 cm with manual DuraAce 11 speed saddle pack, half filled large water bottle. Pro-lite 40 mm aluminum wheels 20.17 lbs.

An interesting exercise would be to add your personal riding weight to
each of those, and compare the percent differences in the resulting
total bike+rider weights.

You have never ridden a very light bike and that is quite obvious. Put a 20 lb backpack on and walk up a steep mountain and then lighten that pack up 10% and try it again. It makes a hell of a difference in effort. But you with the **** poor understanding of the real world from supposedly teaching wouldn't understand that. After all, I never hit my head.


Good grief. Just tell me your riding weight. I'll do the math for you.

Although I agree with Lou, it's silly to not give really comparable
weights, that is each bike's weight as actually ridden.

(BTW, we both agree you obviously hit your head badly. It explains so
much. We just disagree on where.)


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- Frank Krygowski