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Default Frequently Asked Questions about Michael J. Vandeman, Ph.D.


Mike Vandeman said about:
Frequently Asked Questions about Michael J. Vandeman, Ph.D.


On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:19:06 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
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http://www.independent.com/news/2007...fensive-logic/

Defensive Logic
By Henry Delgado

Thursday, May 24, 2007

While I have no doubt that Mike Vandeman, PhD, is a well-educated and
reasonable man, I submit that the information he has gleaned from his
associates regarding firearms is woefully inadequate [ "Close
Reading," May 10]. Dr. Vandeman starts out by labeling it
“preposterous” to say that guns are used defensively 2.5 million times
a year. I respectfully refer Dr. Vandeman to a 1993 national survey
report by Gary Kleck, Florida State University criminology professor.
Using a survey sample of 4,977 respondents (the usual survey sample is
in the 600 to 1,600 range), Professor Kleck determined that guns are
used an average of 2.5 million times a year to prevent or defend
against a crime. In 1994, Bill Clinton’s Department of Justice
sponsored a survey titled "Guns in America: National Survey on Private
Ownership and Use of Firearms." They used a smaller sample size than
Kleck, and estimated 1.5 million defensive uses of firearms annually.

It is unfortunate Dr. Vandeman doesn’t know any gun owners. Contrary
to his assertion that a “tiny minority of the population own guns,”
here are the facts for his perusal: There are approximately
300,000,000 people in the U.S. There are approximately 65,000,000 gun
owners in the U.S. That’s about 22 percent of the population.


That only proves that 22% of the population are idiots.



OK, you can grunt like a dittohead parrot. So?


There
are 200 million firearms (65 million-70 million handguns). Firearms
are used for protection by 11 percent of firearms owners (13 percent
of handgun owners). Criminal yearly misuse of firearms is less than
0.2 percent (and less than 0.4 percent for handguns).

I’m confident that Dr. Vandeman will be enlightened by these figures.
I have personally been a participant in defusing a possible crime
because we were armed—but that’s another story.—Henry Delgado

--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat").


No you are not.

Since when is dysfunctional mental masturbation
in front of a keyboard, "working on" something?


(I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)


No you didn't.

Since when is dysfunctional mental masturbation
in front of a keyboard, "fighting" something?


Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


--

When one gains a political certainty akin to
a loyal sports fan, one has achieved the final
tranquility of servitude, a joyous slavery.


"If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude better than
the animating contest of freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that ye were
our countrymen."
- Samuel Adams, August 1, 1776
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