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Old April 2nd 20, 05:02 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 4/1/2020 9:44 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/1/2020 6:41 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/1/2020 6:52 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/1/2020 4:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/1/2020 4:57 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/1/2020 2:41 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 1:30:33 PM UTC-4, Tim
McNamara wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:31:26 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
On 3/29/2020 11:55 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/28/2020 5:36 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 18:59:10 -0500, AMuzi

wrote:
On 3/26/2020 3:23 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 09:23:43 +0700, John B
wrote:

As for "hair on fire"... hardly :-)

"Hair on fire" is Fox Newsspeak for anyone saying
they don't think
Trump is the Greatest President in Human history,
especially
criticism based on what Trump actually says instead
of what he and
his supporters pretend he said. Covfefe! It was
a perfect call!
And you should believe Vladimir over American
intelligence
professionals, he only has our best interests at
heart.


I take no position as it's very early in this thing.
Too early for
an afternoon of tea and medals, too early to hang
the inept.

But I did note the hue and cry about 'fascism' when
we were the
first country to restrict travel from China in
January.

The concerns about fascism predated COVID-19 by
several years.


But the Chinese virus is actually real.

I thought it was an Italian virus now.

It's an American virus at this point.* Time to move on.

I agree, but I'd go further. It's a worldwide virus now.
There is no point in
trying to tie it to a particular country.

It is, indeed, time to move on.


Time to move on. Right. Reminds one of Joseph Stalin,
"Death solves problems. No man, no problem."

Doctor Li Wenliang, unfortunately died in custody after
first reporting the Chinese Wuhan virus. Police regret the
incident in a rare public statement.

Reporters Fang Bin and a bit better known Chen Qiushi
reported on the Chinese Wuhan Virus. Conveniently missing.

This week Dr Ai Fen another doctor who wrote about the
Chinese Wuhan virus on social media has gone missing.

There are others of course but you get the idea.

Meanwhile in my paper today is an interesting chart
labeled 'Confirmed Cases Per Country" and credited to
'Johns Hopkins CSSE' (behind a paywall and I could not
find a chart link) For Italy, the arc is a bit less steep
at the last week or so. ROK has dramatically shallower
increase after 10 March. USA, Spain and UK show the
familiar arc, like annual influenza charts we all know.
What catches the eye, however statistically improbable, is
that China reports the usual arc until 15 February after
which it's a straight horizontal line through end-March.

So you're probably right. Sorta like Tibet, eh? Nothing to
see here, Winnie The Pooh says 'move along now'.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/112985...-toll-of-2500/




https://www.vice.com/en_in/article/8...mains-each-day




https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid...uggest-1494914




Can you specify the benefits of referring to this as "the
Chinese virus" instead of the more common names used by
medical professions - COVID-19, C19, novel corona virus,
etc?

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?


What do you call Marburg virus now?


I had to look that one up. Apparently Marburg was the name
originally given, not a renaming, as you're trying to do
with COVID-19.

In fact, if your example were followed, Marburg would have
been changed to "The Ugandan Virus."
https://www.who.int/health-topics/ma...ase/#tab=tab_1


How about Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever?
(asking for a friend)


That too, seems to be the original name, not a changed name.

But you haven't explained what you're trying to accomplish.



Naming these for the earliest noted or first* described location has a
very long useful descriptive history from Lyme CT to the British Crown
Colony of Hong Kong in 1968.
My reference to having survived Hong Kong flu is not racist toward
Englishmen or The Queen in any way nor should it be considered such.

Our country has a serious problem with unfounded charges of racism, a
much more serious problem than a few residual throwbacks among the
citizenry and nearly as serious as institutional racism such as
Harvard's pride in denying admission to overqualified Asian Americans
because, heck, that might screw up the black admissions rate.


p.s. Famous Frozen Italian Guy (nicknamed Otzi, melted from an ice field
recently) had Lyme disease. He was born about 5300 years ago.


Yes, we visited Otzi some years ago. He's in a little museum in an
out-of-the-way town, a quick stop on the railroad. (The museum staff
were nice enough to watch our bikes carefully while we visited.) It was
very interesting indeed.

But every disease name example you've given has the disease _originally_
and commonly named after the place it was first observed. None of them
involve re-naming a disease after a particular location after the
medical community and the general populace have already settled on a
different name.

So why are you attempting to do this? What do you hope to gain?


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