On 4/2/2020 11:02 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/1/2020 9:44 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/1/2020 6:41 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/1/2020 6:52 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/1/2020 4:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/1/2020 4:57 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/1/2020 2:41 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 1:30:33 PM UTC-4, Tim
McNamara wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:31:26 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
On 3/29/2020 11:55 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/28/2020 5:36 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 18:59:10 -0500, AMuzi
wrote:
On 3/26/2020 3:23 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 09:23:43 +0700, John B
wrote:
As for "hair on fire"... hardly :-)
"Hair on fire" is Fox Newsspeak for anyone saying
they don't think
Trump is the Greatest President in Human history,
especially
criticism based on what Trump actually says
instead
of what he and
his supporters pretend he said. Covfefe! It
was
a perfect call!
And you should believe Vladimir over American
intelligence
professionals, he only has our best interests at
heart.
I take no position as it's very early in this
thing.
Too early for
an afternoon of tea and medals, too early to hang
the inept.
But I did note the hue and cry about 'fascism' when
we were the
first country to restrict travel from China in
January.
The concerns about fascism predated COVID-19 by
several years.
But the Chinese virus is actually real.
I thought it was an Italian virus now.
It's an American virus at this point. Time to move on.
I agree, but I'd go further. It's a worldwide virus now.
There is no point in
trying to tie it to a particular country.
It is, indeed, time to move on.
Time to move on. Right. Reminds one of Joseph Stalin,
"Death solves problems. No man, no problem."
Doctor Li Wenliang, unfortunately died in custody after
first reporting the Chinese Wuhan virus. Police regret
the
incident in a rare public statement.
Reporters Fang Bin and a bit better known Chen Qiushi
reported on the Chinese Wuhan Virus. Conveniently
missing.
This week Dr Ai Fen another doctor who wrote about the
Chinese Wuhan virus on social media has gone missing.
There are others of course but you get the idea.
Meanwhile in my paper today is an interesting chart
labeled 'Confirmed Cases Per Country" and credited to
'Johns Hopkins CSSE' (behind a paywall and I could not
find a chart link) For Italy, the arc is a bit less steep
at the last week or so. ROK has dramatically shallower
increase after 10 March. USA, Spain and UK show the
familiar arc, like annual influenza charts we all know.
What catches the eye, however statistically
improbable, is
that China reports the usual arc until 15 February after
which it's a straight horizontal line through end-March.
So you're probably right. Sorta like Tibet, eh?
Nothing to
see here, Winnie The Pooh says 'move along now'.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/112985...-toll-of-2500/
https://www.vice.com/en_in/article/8...mains-each-day
https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid...uggest-1494914
Can you specify the benefits of referring to this as "the
Chinese virus" instead of the more common names used by
medical professions - COVID-19, C19, novel corona virus,
etc?
What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
What do you call Marburg virus now?
I had to look that one up. Apparently Marburg was the name
originally given, not a renaming, as you're trying to do
with COVID-19.
In fact, if your example were followed, Marburg would have
been changed to "The Ugandan Virus."
https://www.who.int/health-topics/ma...ase/#tab=tab_1
How about Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever?
(asking for a friend)
That too, seems to be the original name, not a changed name.
But you haven't explained what you're trying to accomplish.
Naming these for the earliest noted or first described
location has a very long useful descriptive history from
Lyme CT to the British Crown Colony of Hong Kong in 1968.
My reference to having survived Hong Kong flu is not
racist toward Englishmen or The Queen in any way nor
should it be considered such.
Our country has a serious problem with unfounded charges
of racism, a much more serious problem than a few residual
throwbacks among the citizenry and nearly as serious as
institutional racism such as Harvard's pride in denying
admission to overqualified Asian Americans because, heck,
that might screw up the black admissions rate.
p.s. Famous Frozen Italian Guy (nicknamed Otzi, melted
from an ice field recently) had Lyme disease. He was born
about 5300 years ago.
Yes, we visited Otzi some years ago. He's in a little museum
in an out-of-the-way town, a quick stop on the railroad.
(The museum staff were nice enough to watch our bikes
carefully while we visited.) It was very interesting indeed.
But every disease name example you've given has the disease
_originally_ and commonly named after the place it was first
observed. None of them involve re-naming a disease after a
particular location after the medical community and the
general populace have already settled on a different name.
So why are you attempting to do this? What do you hope to gain?
Suit yourself.
As another poster here has noted, merely 'Chinese' is not
enough descriptor, as this is only latest of a series which
will likely continue. Hence 'Wuhan'.
Also note that world news outlets including NYT and the
government administrative propaganda network NPR referred to
it as 'Wuhan virus' until our President used the term. That
made for the latest breathless charge of racism[1]. The man
has plenty to criticize, as I do nearly every day. You don't
have to make things up!
I also note that during the earlier Chinese virus event, Dr
Margaret Chang of ROC who led and spoke for WHO, with her
perfect university British English, galled the heck out of
the PRC heads. They successfully infiltrated WHO to such an
extent that as American virologist Dr Wen Chen noted when
interviewed last Sunday evening on KRLA all 17 of the WHO
'experts' are either Red Chinese nationals or dependent on
PRC funding for their labs.
So perhaps you are right. 'Move along,, nothing to see here'
is one approach and it may give comfort.
Standing athwart history yelling 'stop' is another path.
[1] His direct promise to deal with the Wuhan virus in the
State of the Union on 4 February, after first among nations
ban on inbound air from China in January, are ignored by
this week's charge of 'didn't do anything'.
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