On 03/08/2013 10:53, Adrian wrote:

On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 10:40:53 +0100, JNugent wrote:

No mention of "give way".

Well, apart from the "IF THE WAY IS CLEAR" bit.

Why have you either (a) failed to read, or (b) ignored, my rebuttal of
that point?

If you're going to complain about failing to read or ignoring, then at
least try not to do the exact same within one post...

The whole diversion about proceeding only if the way is clear had been
dealt with. It has nothing to do with traffic lights per se. It applies
everywhere, all the time.

If Road User A is going over a green light and _avoidably_ hits Road
User B, then A most certainly DOES carry a degree of culpability.

It *might* be; that certainly is not automatic.

^ "and _avoidably_"

Sure, B shouldn't have been there. They also contributed. But if A
could have avoided the impact and didn't, then they are not blameless.

"If".

^ "and _avoidably_"

Just highlighting that needs to be highlighted.