On 18 May 2006 10:35:04 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc, "Bob"
wrote:

BTW, I
think Mark realized a long time ago that he'd never sell a frame to
you, probably in one of several past threads in which you've accused
him of fostering a slave labor system by outsourcing his frames to
China.

please tell me when, since i don't recall doing that. i might
have questioned his outsourcing decision, but i don't recall
accusing him of "fostering slave labor".

as a matter of fact, i corresponded with him about having one
custom made, but spent the money to go see lance win the 2004
tour instead, and then bought a house which is sucking up most of
my spare cash.

but the truth is, i've become more and more weary of his spouting
dittohead untruths and stereotypes. most so called liberals i
know are activists against drunk driving, some are active members
of MADD, not defenders of idiots like the guy that killed kifer.

imho, first offense should be a year revocation and 30 days in
jail, second, 10 years revocation and a year in jail, and for a
third offense, 10 years in jail and lifetime revocation. of
course if the drunk driver kills someone they should be charged
with second degree murder unless they are driving without a
license, in which case they should be charged with 1st degree
murder.

i know a lot of "liberal" cyclists who call in drunk drivers with
their cell phones all the time, just like i do, so hickey's rant
about stereotyped "liberals" is just a bunch of right wingnut
propaganda. it makes as much sense as your assumption in this
newsgroup that cops are always right, which i my experience is
far from true (and a someone managing 500+ units of rental
housing that includes 3 trailer courts, i deal with cops a lot,
usually trying to help them arrest one of our tenants).