On Monday, July 30, 2012 6:24:41 PM UTC+1, Mrcheerful wrote:
Phil W Lee wrote:

"Zapp Brannigan" considered Sat, 28 Jul 2012

22:13:47 +0100 the perfect time to write:





"Phil W Lee" wrote in message

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"Zapp Brannigan" considered Sat, 28 Jul 2012

18:07:37 +0100 the perfect time to write:

"Phil W Lee" wrote in message

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As he had no /reasonable/ belief that the procession would cause

any trouble, the order was unlawful.



Unfortunately it is the senior police officer's opinion which is

pertinent here, not yours.



Ah yes, never let the facts get in the way when you want to

persecute someone.



If a senior police officer had the opinion that David Cameron was a

terrorist plant, would he make an armed raid on number 10 in the

small hours of the morning?



Without any grounds for the belief, it is not reasonable.



The accused persons will have the opportunity to make a defence on

that basis.



The Met will set out the scale of the event they were tasked to

protect, the scale of threat to that event, and the disruption

already being suffered by the local community. They will present

their assessment of the risks presented by an uncontrolled mob

invasion of unknown protestors with diverse motives.



The court will then decide whether the police commander had any

reasonable basis for concern. I think it is inevitable and right

that they will find for the Police on this point, but we'll have to

wait and see.



The police have apparently realised that they can't make any

justification for nearly all the arrests, and have released them

without charge. The only ones they've charged are those against whom

they have some OTHER charge.



So all the disruption and nearly all the arrests were, by the polices

own admission, unfounded.



I hope the IPCC will investigate the senior officer concerned, with a

view to prosecution for his instigation of this vendetta.



I hope he gets a commendation for lessening the nuisance the cyclists

attempted to cause, it would be great if this (arresting and charging of

troublemakers) could happen every time cyclorabble get on the streets to try

and disrupt other people's lives.

The major disruption in this case was caused by the police blocking off roads in an attempt to stop CM and merely because CM participants had decided not to obey the stupid conditions imposed on them by the police, such as not to go north of the river.

BTW, this is a good example of how the police are allowed to create crimes as they go along and criminalise people extra-judicially, on the basis of "Do as we say or else!"

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