"Tom Kunich" wrote in message
nk.net...

I was at the top of Palomares Rd one time and there was some old guy there
riding a Swiss bike (forget the brand.) It was a 6-speed friction shifter
and the wheels didn't look particularly light and it had a leather saddle
on
it. While talking he claimed that the bike was 18 lbs. I lifted it and
believe me, if it wasn't 18 lbs it was DAMNED close.

I had a new bike with DuraAce, STI shifters and all, and weighed in at 24
lbs.



Was it a Cilo or a Villiger? Just wondering...

James