On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:01:21 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-04-19 19:52, John B Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 07:04:46 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-04-18 20:04, John B Slocomb wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:49:40 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-04-18 08:08, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 10:46:18 AM UTC-4, Joerg
wrote: Snipped
That's what you have in Europe a lot, bad bike path
designs. In
the US
they are mostly better but incomplete, you have two miles
of bike
path
or lane because some grant mandated that, followed by ...
nothing. Then
some people react like Frank, saying that bike paths in
general are "nonsense". If all engineers thought that way
most inventions
would have
never happened and we'd be living like the Flintstones.

-- Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Wait a minute! You've been praising the European type
bicycle
infrastructure for ages here on RBT and now you're saying that a lot of
it is bad? Is that the same "a lot" as "a lot of bicyclists in the US
wil use new bicycle lanes" if only they are built?

Cheers


Hmm, seems like Thailand has changed a lot and is becoming like
the
US :-(

The Thai people I met during my life were very versed in
repairing stuff. There is a knock coming from the engine? Let's
take it apart and check.


I wasn't arguing that no Thais could fix things. Rather that the
great bulk of the Thais who could, for instance, afford a car
couldn't fix it, nor do they have any interest in learning how to
fix it. If you met Thais that could re-build an engine then you
met the "lower classes" who actually worked with their hands. Who
are, I'd reckon, becoming somewhat scarce.


Not so much "lower class" but older generation. The people who
could still get it done.


Nope. I and my wife are "older generation" and out contemporaries
aren't any more adapt than the young people. Less, in fact. The kids
are all on Twitter and Facebook and us old folk don't know how to do
that.


And then they say, "Hey, dad, I need a new motor bike because my old one
broke".

Twitter and Facebook are IMO rather useless when it comes to getting
stuff done.


For example, of my wife's immediate family, Starting with her
father and his two brothers, say a hundred people, some of whom
are very rich, some are collage professors, some are middle class
and some are poor as church mice, I doubt that a single one could
fix anything mechanical.


That is strange. My ancestors were middle class yet they could all
repair stuff, including many of the women. When there is an issue with
our watering system in the yard my wife often doesn't mention it to me.
Instead, I see her heading out the back door with a tool box.

Is your wife Thai?


No, from Europe. Just wondering why this should be so different with
Thais. The ones I met here do not shy away from repairs at all.

In short "face". People who are someone do not get their hands dirty,
they hire others to do that.

The Asian term "face" is a direct translation from most of the local
languages and sounds a bit strange to Westerners so in the West it is
referred to a "preeminence".