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Which Brooks saddle?
On Mar 2, 10:27 pm, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
Per Andre Jute: I also want springing front and rear. I'd consider a sus post instead. Brooks are making the 210 with solid rails now. I think you'd get substantially lower weight. -- PeteCresswell The weight doesn't bother me. I specced my new bike to lose all kinds of complications bike, such as the suspended fork and seat suspension post. I like the idea of traditional coil springs on my seat, though admittedly I like the idea of suspension by leather hammock alone, if it works as well as simple coils, even better. It's just one of those things where I have to take all the helpful advice I can get, meanwhile working my way through the likeliest options until I find the optimal seat. I'm trying to catch up on experience it took you guys years and decades to acquire. Andre Jute Remove the number one from to reach me |
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Ping Pete Cresswell, was Which Brooks saddle?
On Mar 2, 5:07*pm, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
Per Andre Jute: I ride an hour a day, two hours a day for longer rides, never more. Total mileage in the order of 2000m/3200km per year, creeping up slowly. Which Brooks model would be advisable for a guy who weighs 215 pounds? You need to determine your ichial tuberosity spacing before making a choice. Sit on a block of styrofoam or even a sheet of paper on a fairly soft rug until you can see the two dents. Center-to-center distance between the dents will help pare down the saddle choices. Should I prefer one of the models with helical springs at the back? I use both, but am partial to un-sprung combined with a sus post because of the greater durability off-road. Springs are 100% adequate for road use. * The B-72's very small springs are my favorite, but they do tend to break with too many bumps, as in off-road use. Would one of the "aged" models give me a headstart on comfort. In my experience, no. *They're all pretty good right out of the box unless you get one with extra-hard leather. * I buy from a place that lets me return a saddle if I don't like it and have had to return one out of about a half-dozen that I've bought so far. If you settle on a B-17, ping me. * I've got a couple hanging on the wall since I went to a wider saddle. -- Pete (Broad Butt) Cresswell I sent a reply which seems didn't make it. As every cyclist I know locally rides a plastic saddle, I therefore have no accessible reference. I've ordered a B73 but I would be interested in having a broken-in B17 as a reference of the default size and what a broken-in saddle feels like. So, yes please, drop me a note to after you lose the numeral one. Andre Jute |
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Per Andre Jute:
I like the idea of traditional coil springs on my seat, though admittedly I like the idea of suspension by leather hammock alone, if it works as well as simple coils, even better. I don't think there's any appreciable suspension in the hammock. -- PeteCresswell |
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(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Andre Jute: I like the idea of traditional coil springs on my seat, though admittedly I like the idea of suspension by leather hammock alone, if it works as well as simple coils, even better. I don't think there's any appreciable suspension in the hammock. To me it is. But I do not sit in the saddle with all my weight. Anyway try hit B17 or any Brooks with rails only with your fist and see if it is any suspension in it. Combined suspension - leather/steel rails is enough if you use your legs as a suspension too. -- PoZdR ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ "More experienced cyclists learn to "get light" for a fraction of a second while going over rough patches; newbies tend to sit harder on the saddle, increasing the risk of pinch flats." Sheldon Brown: 1944 - 2008 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ |
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Phil W Lee wrote:
"(PeteCresswell)" considered Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:59:53 -0500 the perfect time to write: Per Andre Jute: I like the idea of traditional coil springs on my seat, though admittedly I like the idea of suspension by leather hammock alone, if it works as well as simple coils, even better. I don't think there's any appreciable suspension in the hammock. There's a site somewhere on the net that has film of the leather "hammock" moving in use. The camera is placed to show the underside of the saddle as the bike is being ridden, and you can even see the flex in the rails. I must admit, it was a surprise to me how much it shifts under shock loading. It is obvious for someone who use good leather saddle. You can feel it. Just ride replacing such saddle with block wood or hard plastic instead :-) -- PoZdR ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ "More experienced cyclists learn to "get light" for a fraction of a second while going over rough patches; newbies tend to sit harder on the saddle, increasing the risk of pinch flats." Sheldon Brown: 1944 - 2008 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ |
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Phil W Lee phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk wrote: "(PeteCresswell)" considered Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:59:53 -0500 the perfect time to write: Per Andre Jute: I like the idea of traditional coil springs on my seat, though admittedly I like the idea of suspension by leather hammock alone, if it works as well as simple coils, even better. I don't think there's any appreciable suspension in the hammock. There's a site somewhere on the net that has film of the leather "hammock" moving in use. The camera is placed to show the underside of the saddle as the bike is being ridden, and you can even see the flex in the rails. I must admit, it was a surprise to me how much it shifts under shock loading. That is the surprising thing. To touch the saddle seems very hard and unforgiving. Clack it with your knuckle and it sounds like a wood block. Then put the ischial tuberosities on it, ride, and you can feel the saddle flexing with road shock. -- Michael Press |
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