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On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 8:42:05 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote: Since you haven't even a passing understanding of economics What I am (unlike you) is a self-employed business owner with 45 employees who at least understands budgets and accounting. In this case, the micro-economic rules still apply -- if you decrease revenue and increase spending, you'll go broke. It's a pity you weren't taught any economics at college, Jay. Here you're committing the serious error of "composition", assuming that national economics work like private household economics. Look it up. Andre Jute I charge for tutorials for the ignorant |
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On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 1:32:31 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 8:42:05 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote: Since you haven't even a passing understanding of economics What I am (unlike you) is a self-employed business owner with 45 employees who at least understands budgets and accounting. In this case, the micro-economic rules still apply -- if you decrease revenue and increase spending, you'll go broke. It's a pity you weren't taught any economics at college, Jay. Here you're committing the serious error of "composition", assuming that national economics work like private household economics. Look it up. Andre Jute I charge for tutorials for the ignorant I understand that supply-side economics is a macroeconomic theory, but like I said, micro economics apply to federal budgets -- just like any budget. You spend more than you make, you go broke -- or you borrow and then go broke. Do you know an exception to that rule? Well, I guess the federal government can keep on borrowing and then we get into the macro economic effects of defaulting on national debt, etc., etc. But before we get there, we'll feel the micro economic effects of massive tax increases and budget cutting (cutting TK's SS benefit), more than likely under a Democratic administration -- which will also have the poison pill of the sunsetting tax code provisions cutting the individual rates. Its going to be a **** storm if something isn't done soon. As the world's economic and sink-hole expert, Andre, we're looking to you for a solution. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 06:46:43 +0700, John B
wrote: From what I have read the "beat cop" method requires much more manpower than "some guys riding around in cars" and, again from what I read, the public is resistant to paying more and more money for law enforcement. There's some of that here, too. The new-ish mayor wanted to reduce the number of cops when the chief of police wanted a lot more, so that got played out in the news. And right about that time there was a spate of murders in the city; the mayor had some "town hall" style meetings and got an earful from a populace that (1) was more in line with the thinking of the chief and (2) wants the city to make due with the high taxes it already collects rather than bumping up tax demands 10-20% a year. Of course, those two things don't go together. You can't hire and equip dozens of cops (I think the difference between the mayor and the chief was about 100 FTEs or something like that) for free. Hey, maybe we could get corporate sponsorships for the police department like we did for our spanking new publicly-funded sports stadiums! Community safety brought to you by Nike! It's an interesting set of dilemmas. The city plan is to increase the population by about 30% over the next 20 years, shifting the residence model from home ownership to rental. However, they completely caved on affordable housing so that only about 5% of units will fall into that category. They also caved on requiring off-street parking, so a city that already has less than half of the off-street parking it needs will have less than a quarter. They can't fix the potholes, the water and sewer infrastructure is failing which has been causing sinkholes, they've forgotten how to plow the streets, they've lost multiple lawsuits regarding what turned out to be illegal fees to homeowners, etc. |
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:52:16 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/23/2020 3:57 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: But even a bit broader than trade is reintegrating parolees into society. Work and economic self-support is hugely important, but many perhaps most employers simply will not hire people who have been incarcerated. So even if they have a trade they've learned, they can't get a job. In some states parolled felons can't vote, another bar to being an accepted member of society. I'm with you generally but voting rights and 'being an accepted member of society' are unrelated. I would disagree. Many parolled felons are vocal about the effects of being disenfranchised. They have, as the saying goes, paid their debt to society and yet continue to be punished after their sentence is completed. Hell, literally half the people you know are qualified to vote but do not. And you don't know who is who. _That_ ought to be unacceptable in polite society[1]. Well, I was raised in a family that was dedicated to voting, especially my father, so I almost never miss casting my vote (I did completely forget about a primary last year and felt terrible about it). I agree that this is a civic duty and one of the most important things that citizens do. There are countries that put us to shame in this regard, where people are standing in line to vote and may travel hours or days to be able to do so, even though various militant factions are a threat to the voters. My voting place has been a five minute walk from my house for 26 years- I cannot justify not voting. [1] Which should not be construed as support of mandatory voting, a pernicious thing I do not advocate. Voting at gunpoint! "We have ways of making you vote!" |
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:07:16 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote: As an especially egregious case in point - my friend the retired NCIS agent, NEVER votes. But spends a great deal of time complaining about politicians. Sheesh. I remember two quotes I've ready to justify this. One was an older woman who said "I never vote, it just encourages them." The other was a well-known person who said "I don't vote because there's no one to vote *for*. Choosing the lesser of evils is still choosing evil." Neither are acceptable to me. |
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On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 9:56:06 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 1:32:31 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote: On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 8:42:05 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 11:12:16 AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote: Since you haven't even a passing understanding of economics What I am (unlike you) is a self-employed business owner with 45 employees who at least understands budgets and accounting. In this case, the micro-economic rules still apply -- if you decrease revenue and increase spending, you'll go broke. It's a pity you weren't taught any economics at college, Jay. Here you're committing the serious error of "composition", assuming that national economics work like private household economics. Look it up. Andre Jute I charge for tutorials for the ignorant I understand that supply-side economics is a macroeconomic theory, but like I said, micro economics apply to federal budgets -- just like any budget.. You spend more than you make, you go broke -- or you borrow and then go broke. Do you know an exception to that rule? Well, I guess the federal government can keep on borrowing and then we get into the macro economic effects of defaulting on national debt, etc., etc. But before we get there, we'll feel the micro economic effects of massive tax increases and budget cutting (cutting TK's SS benefit), more than likely under a Democratic administration -- which will also have the poison pill of the sunsetting tax code provisions cutting the individual rates. Its going to be a **** storm if something isn't done soon. As the world's economic and sink-hole expert, Andre, we're looking to you for a solution. -- Jay Beattie. What I understand is that it will be political suicide for any pol to vote for sanity and thus nothing will be done until the crisis arrives. In the current federal budgeting system log-rolling and the pork barrel have been combined into huge omnibus tax measures that no one has the time to read before they vote on them. ("I have to vote for it so I find out what's in it.") Andre Jute Laugh today, die tomorrow |
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On 1/24/2020 2:12 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 10:50:08 AM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote: Jay, since all you want to do is argue go do it in the mirror. Tax increases such as a national gas tax increase that was temporary, increases in the SS rate because of increases in SS payments and the like count only in the minds of people like you. Tom, I'll just note that Jay repeatedly posts links to articles from serious sources that both confirm what he says, and rebut what you say. In discussions on political topics, I can't recall you posting any links that didn't lead to whacko websites. Nobody here accepts you as an authority on economics. You need to corroborate your claims with real information. Otherwise your rants will convince nobody. You are just wasting your time and ours. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 15:32:18 -0500, Radey Shouman
wrote: Frank Krygowski writes: On 1/24/2020 12:57 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 8:58:23 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/23/2020 8:48 PM, AMuzi wrote: Speaking of diversity, check out the results of just a few thousands of feral savages inflicted on an otherwise homogenous nation: https://www.thelocal.se/20181015/giv...gets-under-way As my British friend used to say, "If bombs are outlawed, only outlaws will have bombs." For those who don't recognize sarcasm, he was very much in favor of British gun laws, and baffled by America's gun nuts. -- - Frank Krygowski The founders of this nation, thank God, were very powerful thinkers. But to you they were dopes and you know much better. They were fairly sharp guys. Not gods, not saints, not infallible, but sharp guys. They believed in well-regulated militias. That was understood quite well for about 200 years. They combined together in using established militias, and their weapons, to overthrow their lawful government in a long and bloody war. Had they failed many would have been hanged for treason, drawing and quartering having fallen into deseutude. When they talked of "watering the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants", they were not speaking theoretically. It was only in very recent times that the firearms industry and some gun nuts got lawyers to convince activist judges that all precedents and all previous legal thought should be thrown into a trash can and shot to hell with an AR-15 fitted with a bump stock. That's a little backwards. There wasn't a lot of gun control until the 60s, except for minorities, poor people, and residents of a few large cities. When various factions began to push for more, "gun nuts" resisted using legal means. I don't believe there was much legal thought on the second amendment until the past 20 years or so -- sort of like the ninth and tenth. I'm old enough now to have some insight into the question and I can tell you that prior to 1950 (when I left home and went to collage) there weren't, effectively, any gun laws in New Hampshire. For example, you could legally carry an unloaded rifle or pistol right down the main street in town. In 1944, I was 12 years old and I bought a .22 rifle - bill of sale in my name. But, at the same time a gun wasn't considered some sort of strange, dangerous, device. My paternal grandfather kept his guns in a corner of the kitchen as far back as I can remember. My mother's father kept his in the corner of the downstairs bathroom :-) But, by the same token kids didn't play with real guns, why would they? After all I was shooting a .22, albeit under my father's supervision, when I was 8 or 9 years old and had the promise of "my own gun" when I was 12. And, I might add, I never hear a girl or woman say anything like, "Ohhh! I'm so frightened of a gun", any more than she'd say "Oh, I'm so frightened of that axe, or that cross cut saw :-) But then, I don't remember folks wearing torn pants or four day beards in an effort to look "macho" :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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On 1/24/2020 12:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/24/2020 12:57 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 8:58:23 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/23/2020 8:48 PM, AMuzi wrote: Speaking of diversity, check out the results of just a few thousands of feral savages inflicted on an otherwise homogenous nation: https://www.thelocal.se/20181015/giv...gets-under-way As my British friend used to say, "If bombs are outlawed, only outlaws will have bombs." For those who don't recognize sarcasm, he was very much in favor of British gun laws, and baffled by America's gun nuts. -- - Frank Krygowski The founders of this nation, thank God, were very powerful thinkers. But to you they were dopes and you know much better. They were fairly sharp guys. Not gods, not saints, not infallible, but sharp guys. They believed in well-regulated militias. That was understood quite well for about 200 years. It was only in very recent times that the firearms industry and some gun nuts got lawyers to convince activist judges that all precedents and all previous legal thought should be thrown into a trash can and shot to hell with an AR-15 fitted with a bump stock. Tell us about Paul Revere, Lexington & Concord again please. BHO approved bump stocks, which we discussed here years ago (I noted that no firearms owner in my wide acquaintance had anything positive to say about them). DJT banned them. AR-15, your personal bogeyman weapon again? Geez if you need something to truly fear, there are Barrett .50 with optics out there... I remind you that civilians use AR-15 now, replacing mostly ..308 Garands. This reads much like 'dynamo vs LiIon' : https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge...er-comparison/ -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 1/24/2020 4:33 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 06:46:43 +0700, John B wrote: From what I have read the "beat cop" method requires much more manpower than "some guys riding around in cars" and, again from what I read, the public is resistant to paying more and more money for law enforcement. There's some of that here, too. The new-ish mayor wanted to reduce the number of cops when the chief of police wanted a lot more, so that got played out in the news. And right about that time there was a spate of murders in the city; the mayor had some "town hall" style meetings and got an earful from a populace that (1) was more in line with the thinking of the chief and (2) wants the city to make due with the high taxes it already collects rather than bumping up tax demands 10-20% a year. Of course, those two things don't go together. You can't hire and equip dozens of cops (I think the difference between the mayor and the chief was about 100 FTEs or something like that) for free. Hey, maybe we could get corporate sponsorships for the police department like we did for our spanking new publicly-funded sports stadiums! Community safety brought to you by Nike! It's an interesting set of dilemmas. The city plan is to increase the population by about 30% over the next 20 years, shifting the residence model from home ownership to rental. However, they completely caved on affordable housing so that only about 5% of units will fall into that category. They also caved on requiring off-street parking, so a city that already has less than half of the off-street parking it needs will have less than a quarter. They can't fix the potholes, the water and sewer infrastructure is failing which has been causing sinkholes, they've forgotten how to plow the streets, they've lost multiple lawsuits regarding what turned out to be illegal fees to homeowners, etc. You may not believe this, but people actually ask me why we moved 15 miles across a county line to a low tax rural area. You're on the same path as the city we left, just a few years behind in policy and hence outcome. Once your neighborhood, in addition to all the suffering you endure above, becomes riddled with feces, needles, holdups, muggings and the like, remember the ultimate cure. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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