Don't hassle me - I'm riding my bike

https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/

Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!"

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/

Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies and donettes. I'd have to reach around to my jersey pocket, and any decent gun would probably stretch the hell out of it. I need the Garmin gun mount.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/

Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a handlebar bag.
With the basket, the gun's easily visible but it bounces around.
Sometimes it slides under the donettes, slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But then there are
tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an outside pocket. Inside for
concealed carry, but you lose a second flipping the bag open. Outside
for open carry, but some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated! That's why
most of them drive pickups.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:12:09 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

Well you obviously can't use that one. After all it says "easily
carried in watch pocket" and who has a "watch pocket" any more?



N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:12:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--

I can't remember the last time I needed or wanted to pull a gun on someone, at least not since quitting ambulance work 40 years ago. I would be better off carrying a spare crank arm since I've broken more cranks than encountered homicidal tramps.

BTW, I inherited a .32 cal Browning 1910 that was taken off a Japanese officer in WWII (they loved the Brownings). The thing weighs like a pound and a half -- and its small. I can get a Time frame that weighs less than that gun. If I got a gun, I'd want super light-weight one -- with features that would make it otherwise useful, like a fold out pocket tool and maybe GPS. I'd want to talk to my gun -- "gun, call home." "Gun, shoot tramp." "Gun, call lawyer." "Gun, plot course to Mexico."

-- Jay Beattie.

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:12:13 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/3/2020 3:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes.

Well, there's a tradeoff between a handlebar basket and a
handlebar bag. With the basket, the gun's easily visible but
it bounces around. Sometimes it slides under the donettes,
slowing your draw time.

The handlebar bag can have a special holster pocket. But
then there are tradeoffs between an inside pocket over an
outside pocket. Inside for concealed carry, but you lose a
second flipping the bag open. Outside for open carry, but
some people get touchy about that.

Being a good-old-boy American bicyclist can be complicated!
That's why most of them drive pickups.


Cyclists's pistols were a very common accessory at one time.
It's not an overly complex problem. Upscale model at 12
shillings:

https://onlinebicyclemuseum.co.uk/wp...ist-pistol.jpg

N.B. Tom in Oakland, tagline: "I fear no tramp."

more, many with folding trigger for pocket carry:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bicycle+pi...ages&ia=images

That said, urban environments present almost infinite
possibilities for trouble and for liability.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

While someone like Frank might hurry his own death along by trying to walk the streets of Oakland I have people offering help whenever they believe they can be of some.

Last Wednesday I was talking to a rich man, like most rich a large part was inherited. His Grandmother had a farm in the bay area not long after the civil war when food was big business. And also like most rich he spreads it around as much as possible. He is a surgeon and works for Doctors without Borders. He works mostly in Africa and he talked about how much healthier African Children are than Americans because their immune systems are under constant challenge. Perhaps this is the reason that I have such good health. Traipsing through the salt marshes when I was a kid. I suppose a large part of these marshes were formed as part of the run-off from the cities which could not have been very healthy.

We discussed the idea that a cloth mask could possibly even slow down a molecule like a virus and we both got a good laugh out of that (I suppose that he definitely would not fall under Frank's category of "medical expert" I have the distinct impression that what Frank thinks of as an expert is anyone that sits on their ass and reads an occasional study. Frank appears to be unaware that most studies are absolute garbage but then I suppose that is what he taught in college. Poor students. Though they probably learned the art of engineering by practice and not by his meanderings.

Virtually everything that has been visited upon this country by the Democrats has been a virtual curse. While walking through those salt marshes I was accompanied by an American kid of Japanese extraction. He grew up in Roosevelt's concentration camps. These were formed in large part so that Roosevelt who was one of the most racist people that ever lived could allow his friends to seize the property of the Japanese/Americans who were rather prosperous up to that time.

Exactly what do you suppose goes through the head of a man who has a large guaranteed income when he would tell the working man that he cannot work and cannot provide for his family and must do insane things like wear a mask in public unless he is robbing a bank? Social distancing is much like wearing a mask - an infected person has a cloud of virus molecules surrounding his head and contrary to the highly educated Dr. Fauci's thoughts, these thing do not fall to the ground like a brick dropped off a building. They float pretty much in place in a stream along which you are walking. That means that someone could pass through that very slowly dispersing cloud minutes after you have passed and be exposed.

The entire Democrat Party has retained some small remnants of power though the constant threats and fear. Awful environmental impact that is barely measurable, man-made climate change that doesn't exist and now a virus that is virtually harmless.

On 7/3/2020 12:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/

Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies and donettes. I'd have to reach around to my jersey pocket, and any decent gun would probably stretch the hell out of it. I need the Garmin gun mount.

-- Jay Beattie.

The driver brought a knife to a gun fight.

This reminds me of visiting my family in Florida one year. There was a
TV news story about a woman who had dropped her purse in Publix (a
supermarket) and her gun had gone off. The news crew was interviewing
other women shoppers about the incident. The women were criticizing the
shopper with the errant gun for bringing the wrong type of gun to the
supermarket, and were showing the news crews their own guns.

On 7/3/2020 4:13 PM, sms wrote:
On 7/3/2020 12:10 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 8:47:36 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://710wor.iheart.com/content/20...rage-incident/


Detroit needs a mayor who will campaign donating Chinese
safety flasher toys
to anyone in sight.

With any luck some jerks will take the lesson to heart.

Like, "Don't go into a Detroit traffic argument armed
with a knife!"

Exactly, the driver should have been pack'n. It should
have been some Quentin Tarantino-esqe shootout.

This definitely proves the superiority of handlebar
baskets. Just keep your Glock in there with your posies
and donettes. I'd have to reach around to my jersey
pocket, and any decent gun would probably stretch the hell
out of it. I need the Garmin gun mount.

-- Jay Beattie.

The driver brought a knife to a gun fight.

This reminds me of visiting my family in Florida one year.
There was a TV news story about a woman who had dropped her
purse in Publix (a supermarket) and her gun had gone off.
The news crew was interviewing other women shoppers about
the incident. The women were criticizing the shopper with
the errant gun for bringing the wrong type of gun to the
supermarket, and were showing the news crews their own guns.


When I worked in Texas, women commonly drove their pickups
to the grocery with a rifle in the rack (and likely
something in the purse as well). Can't recall any incidents
with either.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971