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Piece of thick old tube instead of patch?
Got a couple of thick tubes that are damaged because of the #%&@!!
Gatorksin side wall blow-outs back when I used those tires. Expensive at around $17/pop, don't want to throw away. Fixing small tears of 1/10" or so with REMA patches works but only for 3-6 month, then they hiss through and I get a slow leak. I can ride home but it's annoying. Using Slime Rubber Cement, is it possible to glue a roughened chunk of tube material on there instead of a REMA patch or is that a recipe for another flat? If not, are there better (= thicker) patches than REMA? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Piece of thick old tube instead of patch?
"Joerg" wrote in message ... Got a couple of thick tubes that are damaged because of the #%&@!! Gatorksin side wall blow-outs back when I used those tires. Expensive at around $17/pop, don't want to throw away. Fixing small tears of 1/10" or so with REMA patches works but only for 3-6 month, then they hiss through and I get a slow leak. I can ride home but it's annoying. Somehow that never worked for me - I've heard of people soaking a patch of denim in rubber solution, but I've never tried that (yet). |
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Piece of thick old tube instead of patch?
Ian Field wrote:
"Joerg" wrote in message ... Got a couple of thick tubes that are damaged because of the #%&@!! Gatorksin side wall blow-outs back when I used those tires. Expensive at around $17/pop, don't want to throw away. Fixing small tears of 1/10" or so with REMA patches works but only for 3-6 month, then they hiss through and I get a slow leak. I can ride home but it's annoying. Somehow that never worked for me - I've heard of people soaking a patch of denim in rubber solution, but I've never tried that (yet). Canada started making their money out of plastic. Works the charm for a temporary patch in a slit tire. -- duane |
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Piece of thick old tube instead of patch?
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 09:47:21 -0700, Joerg
wrote: Got a couple of thick tubes that are damaged because of the #%&@!! Gatorksin side wall blow-outs back when I used those tires. Expensive at around $17/pop, don't want to throw away. Fixing small tears of 1/10" or so with REMA patches works but only for 3-6 month, then they hiss through and I get a slow leak. I can ride home but it's annoying. Using Slime Rubber Cement, is it possible to glue a roughened chunk of tube material on there instead of a REMA patch or is that a recipe for another flat? If not, are there better (= thicker) patches than REMA? If the tire and the patch are not sufficiently flexible, they will move relative to each other when stretched, causing the glue joint to crack. I would make the patch with as thin and flexible rubber material as possible so that the stretch distance is limited by rubber tire, not the patch. If you use REMA patches, you get a chemical vulcanization seal. If you use a piece of inner tube and some random rubber cement, I don't know what you'll get. I couldn't determine if Slime Rubber Cement was the same as Rema Vulcanizing Fluid. This may help: http://forums.roadbikereview.com/general-cycling-discussion/slime-vs-rema-351443.html Maybe try some of these: https://www.google.com/#q=vulcanizing+cement You may want to do a peel strength test. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Piece of thick old tube instead of patch?
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 18:43:23 -0000 (UTC), Duane
wrote: Canada started making their money out of plastic. Works the charm for a temporary patch in a slit tire. I guess any inflationary currency will work. (Sorry, but I just couldn't resist). -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Piece of thick old tube instead of patch?
On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 9:47:26 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
Got a couple of thick tubes that are damaged because of the #%&@!! Gatorksin side wall blow-outs back when I used those tires. Expensive at around $17/pop, don't want to throw away. Fixing small tears of 1/10" or so with REMA patches works but only for 3-6 month, then they hiss through and I get a slow leak. I can ride home but it's annoying. Using Slime Rubber Cement, is it possible to glue a roughened chunk of tube material on there instead of a REMA patch or is that a recipe for another flat? If not, are there better (= thicker) patches than REMA? Latest advertisement for Kenda Valkyrie Pro - "bead to bead belt". Might be something to look into. The prices in the magazine are preposterous but usually the Ebay places or Amazon can get you descent prices and delivery. |
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Piece of thick old tube instead of patch?
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 18:43:23 -0000 (UTC), Duane wrote: Canada started making their money out of plastic. Works the charm for a temporary patch in a slit tire. I guess any inflationary currency will work. (Sorry, but I just couldn't resist). Lol. Well Ben Franks used to work as well as George Washingtons for that matter. But the plastic pictures of someone else's queen seem to work pretty well. -- duane |
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Piece of thick old tube instead of patch?
On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 12:47:26 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
Got a couple of thick tubes that are damaged because of the #%&@!! Gatorksin side wall blow-outs back when I used those tires. Expensive at around $17/pop, don't want to throw away. Fixing small tears of 1/10" or so with REMA patches works but only for 3-6 month, then they hiss through and I get a slow leak. I can ride home but it's annoying. Using Slime Rubber Cement, is it possible to glue a roughened chunk of tube material on there instead of a REMA patch or is that a recipe for another flat? If not, are there better (= thicker) patches than REMA? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ try NAPA patch should lead hole into contact poss for patch to either wrap around tube or go very thin circumwise eliminating not control or vising the sidewall contortions as the area goes thru contact ...which is your windmill |
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Piece of thick old tube instead of patch?
Joerg wrote:
:Got a couple of thick tubes that are damaged because of the #%&@!! :Gatorksin side wall blow-outs back when I used those tires. Expensive at :around $17/pop, don't want to throw away. Fixing small tears of 1/10" or :so with REMA patches works but only for 3-6 month, then they hiss :through and I get a slow leak. I can ride home but it's annoying. Perhaps learn to patch better? I have tubes with three inch tears that have been repaired with (many, many) Rema F1 patches. They hold in tires running from 30 to 100 psi, for years. Rema also make some bigger patches, but I don't know if you can buy them except one at a time in a kit. the trick is to sand the tube until it's rough, apply fluid, let it dry (you can't wait too long...) apply the patch, rub it firmly in place. If you have multiple non-overlapping patches, you can put them on at the same time. When you need to overlap, sand again, apply fluid, let dry, etc... -- sig 79 |
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Piece of thick old tube instead of patch?
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:35:08 -0000 (UTC), Duane
wrote: Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 18:43:23 -0000 (UTC), Duane wrote: Canada started making their money out of plastic. Works the charm for a temporary patch in a slit tire. I guess any inflationary currency will work. (Sorry, but I just couldn't resist). Lol. Well Ben Franks used to work as well as George Washingtons for that matter. But the plastic pictures of someone else's queen seem to work pretty well. I just discovered that "plastic money" refers to credit cards, while "polymer banknotes" are what is used for patching tires: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymer_banknote I must lead a sheltered life. I've never seen a polymer banknote. Looks like the queen is currently on the $20 banknote: https://www.google.com/search?q=canada+polymer+banknote&tbm=isch Too bad it has a Norway maple leaf on the front, instead of Canada maple leaf: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/canada-s-new-20-bill-at-centre-of-maple-leaf-flap-1.1343767 The lowest denomination is $5, http://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknotes/bank-note-series/polymer/ which is still a rather expensive tire patch, unless you cut it into patch size pieces. Looks like bicycle riding in Ottowa is ummm... thrilling: "Cyclist survives dramatic collision after running red light" (0:25) http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/cyclist-struck-dramatic-video-1.4207758 No helmet. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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