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Italian/steel frames need more prep?
On 8 Apr 2006 21:43:28 -0700, "41" wrote:
Mark Hickey wrote: "Ozark Bicycle" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "41" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "41" wrote: I think you meant "Commies". The commies, aka the socialists, tend to pay better wages- to workers, that is- than the capitalists. major snippage That's not the contention, Mark. The contention is that South Korea is the true Socialist state of the tw o. I.E., The Socialist state pays better wages than the other (psuedo-Marxist) state. Nope - the contention that "41" is stated directly above, through the magic of snippage. The magic of snippage, indeed. The "socialists" I cited were Sweden, France, &c. That was one contention. Counting up to two, after you brought up the Koreas, indeed I did also point out (contend? how about prove) that South Korea is the socialist state of the two, and they do pay better wages than the now nascent Chinese-style capitalist North. So by the way, when can we be expecting you to be sourcing titanium frames from them? As long as you define capitalism as anything unpleasant or which you don't like this is pointless. Ron |
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RonSonic wrote: On 8 Apr 2006 21:43:28 -0700, "41" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "Ozark Bicycle" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "41" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "41" wrote: I think you meant "Commies". The commies, aka the socialists, tend to pay better wages- to workers, that is- than the capitalists. major snippage That's not the contention, Mark. The contention is that South Korea is the true Socialist state of the tw o. I.E., The Socialist state pays better wages than the other (psuedo-Marxist) state. Nope - the contention that "41" is stated directly above, through the magic of snippage. The magic of snippage, indeed. The "socialists" I cited were Sweden, France, &c. That was one contention. Counting up to two, after you brought up the Koreas, indeed I did also point out (contend? how about prove) that South Korea is the socialist state of the two, and they do pay better wages than the now nascent Chinese-style capitalist North. So by the way, when can we be expecting you to be sourcing titanium frames from them? As long as you define capitalism as anything unpleasant or which you don't like this is pointless. Hey wait a minute. I thought the point of disagreement was instead over which state is socialist, for which I provided the relevant historical references. Habanero already considers China to be capitalist enough.. |
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Italian/steel frames need more prep?
On 10 Apr 2006 15:51:44 -0700, "41" wrote:
RonSonic wrote: On 8 Apr 2006 21:43:28 -0700, "41" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "Ozark Bicycle" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "41" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "41" wrote: I think you meant "Commies". The commies, aka the socialists, tend to pay better wages- to workers, that is- than the capitalists. major snippage That's not the contention, Mark. The contention is that South Korea is the true Socialist state of the tw o. I.E., The Socialist state pays better wages than the other (psuedo-Marxist) state. Nope - the contention that "41" is stated directly above, through the magic of snippage. The magic of snippage, indeed. The "socialists" I cited were Sweden, France, &c. That was one contention. Counting up to two, after you brought up the Koreas, indeed I did also point out (contend? how about prove) that South Korea is the socialist state of the two, and they do pay better wages than the now nascent Chinese-style capitalist North. So by the way, when can we be expecting you to be sourcing titanium frames from them? As long as you define capitalism as anything unpleasant or which you don't like this is pointless. Hey wait a minute. I thought the point of disagreement was instead over which state is socialist, for which I provided the relevant historical references. Habanero already considers China to be capitalist enough.. North Korea isn't at all capitalist. Actually, I don't know if it has enough of any kind of economy to be categorized as any modern system. Ron |
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RonSonic wrote: On 10 Apr 2006 15:51:44 -0700, "41" wrote: RonSonic wrote: On 8 Apr 2006 21:43:28 -0700, "41" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "Ozark Bicycle" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "41" wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: "41" wrote: I think you meant "Commies". The commies, aka the socialists, tend to pay better wages- to workers, that is- than the capitalists. major snippage That's not the contention, Mark. The contention is that South Korea is the true Sociali st state of the tw o. I.E., The Socialist state pays better wages than the other (psuedo-Marxist) state. Nope - the contention that "41" is stated directly above, through the magic of snippage. The magic of sn ippage, indeed. The "socialists" I cited were Sweden, France, &c. That was one contention. Counting up to two, after you brought up the Koreas, indeed I did also point out (contend? how about prove) that South Korea is the socialist state of the two, and they do pay better wages than the now nascent Chinese-style capitalist North. So by the way, when can we be expecting you to be sourcing titanium frames from them? As long as you define capitalism as anything unpleasant or which you don't like this is pointless. Hey wait a minute. I thought the point of disagreement was instead over which state is socialist, for which I provided the relevant historical references. Habanero already considers C hina to be capitalist enough.. North Korea isn't at all capitalist. Actually, I don't know if it has enough of any kind of economy to be categorized as any modern system. Would you be so kind as to read what I write before you disagree with it. As I said, FORMERLY, North Korea had an economy which was of a third type. At the moment, it is BEGINNING a transition to the Chinese style of state capitalism: "nascent". This is an ongoing news item and you can read about it as it is happening. Of course, given its condition, North Korea will be able to undercut China, and so be to China what China was to Taiwan, perhaps ten times over. It will be the right-wing zealot capitalist's dream. Thus perhaps it will not be too long before we read he "Home of the $95 Ti frame". |
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On 10 Apr 2006 20:33:24 -0700, "41" wrote:
Would you be so kind as to read what I write before you disagree with it. As I said, FORMERLY, North Korea had an economy which was of a third type. At the moment, it is BEGINNING a transition to the Chinese style of state capitalism: "nascent". This is an ongoing news item and you can read about it as it is happening. Of course, given its condition, North Korea will be able to undercut China, and so be to China what China was to Taiwan, perhaps ten times over. It will be the right-wing zealot capitalist's dream. Thus perhaps it will not be too long before we read he "Home of the $95 Ti frame". Sure, 'cause living conditions are everything that set Taiwan, China and Korea apart, the difference in population size is negligible. Jasper |
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