A.R.B.R. ain't dead yet??????

"G. Morgan" wrote in message
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Jim,
Good Lord!


What Zach is talking about should not be made light of. Check out
these sobering and frightening websites. Even the fictional accout
gives cause for concern.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Home.html

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This is a doomsday scenario. I hope someone smarter than me can put my
mind at
rest and prove this scenario wrong.

Sorry, G.M. Though there is considerable disagreement about the near-term
effects of peak oil, virtually everyone agrees that there is no way to
prevent the collapse of "modern" societies as we know them. When the oil
runs out, the party is over. It's extremely unlikely (read: damned near
impossible) that a new technology or new gigantic oil reserve will stave off
the demise of modern society. I figure by 2015, I'll be amazed if ordinary
Americans can afford to drive SUV's and heat their McMansions. By that time,
100,000+ US soldiers will have died securing oil for our dying empire, under
the cynical guise of fighting the "war on terror." Social security will be
gone. Don't plan for it.

Think about what the US was like before oil and the combustion engine. Plan
for that scenario. You'll need some horses, chickens, a couple of cows or
goats, a wood stove, a few reliable all-terrain bikes, some land to plant a
garden, and a well for water. Having a big stand of trees nearby would be
extremely useful if you live in a cold climate. If you live in a big house,
better get used to the cold. You probably won't be able to heat it. If you
have a drug-dependent life threatening illness, I'm sorry for you.

Personally, I'm not worried about being poor. I grew up poor. Subsistence
is sustainable, as billions of people around the world have proven since
time immemorial. However, I am concerned about making sure I end up living
around sane people with a commitment to help each another get through the
rough times by sharing resources, working together, and protecting each
other. Do you know any people like that? I don't know very many.

R

If we can't agree that it's time to end tyranny and totalitarianism it's
doubtful that we'll ever be able to coordinate resolution of any of these
other "wicked problems" that face us.
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"G. Morgan" wrote in message
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Jim,
Good Lord!


What Zach is talking about should not be made light of. Check out
these sobering and frightening websites. Even the fictional accout
gives cause for concern.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Home.html

snip other URL

This is a doomsday scenario. I hope someone smarter than me can put my
mind at
rest and prove this scenario wrong.


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Thats why security alarms are so great.


Non sequiturs can be fun.

R

Who do you know of that is "pro tyranny?"

For that matter, who is "pro abortion?"

(That last one is a trick question. Don't trip on it...)

LOL

R


"Freewheeling" wrote in message
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If we can't agree that it's time to end tyranny and totalitarianism it's
doubtful that we'll ever be able to coordinate resolution of any of these
other "wicked problems" that face us.
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"G. Morgan" wrote in message
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Jim,
Good Lord!


What Zach is talking about should not be made light of. Check out
these sobering and frightening websites. Even the fictional accout
gives cause for concern.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Home.html

snip other URL

This is a doomsday scenario. I hope someone smarter than me can put my
mind at
rest and prove this scenario wrong.


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Non Sequiters fun?

I dunno man. One time this thing came aboard the enterprise... Nomad it
was called. It erased Lt Uhuras memory, killed scotty and was gonna
kill the kirk unit, but he outsmarted it and threw it into an overload.
Eventually they beamed it out of the ship and it blew up. Which reminds
me, why do they need starships if there are teleporters? Wouldn't you
just need 1 starship, and then you could go around putting in
teleporters (and teleporter attenuators/repeaters, I suppose)? Also, if
you can beam things around, why do you need photon torpedos? Couldn't
you just beam an M80 over to the bridge of the guy you were fighting?
If not, couldn't you just beam his whole ship somewhere else?

Oh, I almost forgot. Nomad was very fond of saying "non sequiter".

"Matt" wrote in message
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Non Sequiters fun?

I dunno man. One time this thing came aboard the enterprise... Nomad it
was called. It erased Lt Uhuras memory, killed scotty and was gonna
kill the kirk unit, but he outsmarted it and threw it into an overload.
Eventually they beamed it out of the ship and it blew up. Which reminds
me, why do they need starships if there are teleporters? Wouldn't you
just need 1 starship, and then you could go around putting in
teleporters (and teleporter attenuators/repeaters, I suppose)? Also, if
you can beam things around, why do you need photon torpedos? Couldn't
you just beam an M80 over to the bridge of the guy you were fighting?
If not, couldn't you just beam his whole ship somewhere else?

Oh, I almost forgot. Nomad was very fond of saying "non sequiter".


Please take me off of your marketing lists.

Thanks!

R

Nomad never said that.

"Joshua Goldberg" wrote in message
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At the last OPEC meeting the price per barrel was set at $55.00 per barrel
for 2005/2006,
this was set as the bare minimum, I think their calendar year kicks in
around June 2005 and yes I agree $100.00 should be the base price.
Expect a major price hike after Washington threatens to go ballistic on
Iran and more car bombs light up the sky in Saudi Arabia...the mid-east is
about to get very interesting, North American reaction of course will be
to build and buy bigger and more powerful automobile engines for the drive
to Wal Mart 200 miles away to take advantage of all those deep discount
savings on stuff no longer made in America.

Well, if this is genuine prognostication then the only reason I can think of
that you're not rich is that you just resist it.

I dunno what's gonna happen, but I tend to think that the only folks really
engaged in the future are the small number of people in the military who are
doing stints in Iraq, and the rest of the society isn't even in gear yet.
We're sort of like my brother who used to sit in the harvest truck when he
was a kid making motor noises with his mouth with this really serious look
on his face, while the spittle flew in all directions.

Good intentions. No purchase.

The amount of capability and expertise that's simply going to waste is
enormous. Nothing for them to do.

I was prepared to vote for someone other than Bush. All they need to do was
to tell me that the direction was OK, but we needed to get our ass in gear
and get rolling. So the Dems came up with a platform that basically said we
need to dismantle the truck and dig a hole.

Uh huh.



Might be a bit premature to look into becoming hippie survivalists, but
then again as the air we breath ends up on par with Mexico City and the
only really good jobs left in America include you asking if your customer
wants Fries with their burger...might not hurt to read up on planting a
veggie garden.

Becoming hippie survivalists is exactly the sort of thing this wasted
generation would think of, because it means more nothing in the guise of
something.


Oh and as America becomes more interesting, expect the cost of tires to
rise a few pennies and everything else we import goes up as fuel
costs go up to get stuff to America.

So again, how come you're not getting rich by shorting?


Nice thing about being old is you have learned to not get excited and take
all this global insanity in stride...if I was 30 years younger, I'd be
pretty ****ed & worried with the way the nation and the environment is
going downhill.

I'm sorry, but no matter how old you are you haven't any idea what's coming
next, because we left the reservation a long time ago. It could be
anything. But my own sense of disorder is based on the observation that I
know lots of people with truly extraordinary capabilities that ain't doin'
nuthin', because there's nuthin' for them to do.


"Zach" wrote in message
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Wasn't oil going for about $55/barrel a couple months ago? Whatever it
is the price is much too low and I hope it goes above $100/barrel to
pay for the real costs. Then maybe the excessive number of oversized,
overweight, single occupant vehicles will get off our roads so we have
more space for more benign forms of transportation such as riding
recumbents.

Zach

The Copperheads during the Civil War weren't really "pro-slavery," but the
effect of their policies would have been to extend the institution of
slavery more or less indefinitely. There are two things about the western
left that drives their politics. One is rage at the utter bankruptcy of the
socialist demonstration projects (and the relative success of the
demonstration projects for market capitalism, especially in Chile and other
parts of the southern cone). The other is the conviction that
Islamo/Fascism will be easy to control once the US is out of the way.

The left, by default, is in favor of any policy that reduces tyranny as long
as it doen't redound to the credit of their political opposition, and it
gets a big yawn or worse if it does. Every. Single. Time.

By the way, here's what a friend of mine said recently about the origins of
the term "politically correct." I submit it because it bears some insight
into a rather devious for of "pro-tyranny."

quote
"Political Correctness," like all too many words, especially politically
charged words, is used imprecisely and tendentiously so that its meaning has
been lost and degraded. This phrase like other politically charged terms
such as "racism" and "sexual harassment." has almost been reduced to an
intellectually vacuous epithet.



Let me offer a definition that fits its origin in internal communist
politics and seems to apply to some core concerns. Picture this apochryphal
scene. It is 1937. A dozen people are seated around a large conference table
in Moscow. The chairman of the meeting has announced that collective farmers
will be permitted to cultivate their own private plots, such plots may be up
to 1/4 of an acre in size. At the end of the table one naive and intrepid
fellow raises his hand and says, "comrade chairman may not 1/3 of an acre be
preferable." The chairman responds "But comrade that would be 'politically
incorrect'" All eyes are lowered. At the next meeting the young
whipper-snapper is absent. He can be found in a salt mine in Siberia.



The story captures what I think are the three salient features at the core
of political rectitude. (1) a bizarrely narrow range of what is permitted to
be said on a particular issue; (2) the accepted discourse is centered at the
wrong spot; and (3) harsh consequences falling on those who cross the
border. A good recent illustration of this is the recent affair of Hans
Hoppe who was persecuted for telling his money and banking class that some
distinct groups of people have a tendency to save more than others and that
others save less and that among the latter group were homosexuals because
they tended not to have children.



To reduce the term political correctness to describe mere orthodoxy robs it
of its bite./quote


"rocketman" wrote in message
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Who do you know of that is "pro tyranny?"

For that matter, who is "pro abortion?"

(That last one is a trick question. Don't trip on it...)

LOL

R


"Freewheeling" wrote in message
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If we can't agree that it's time to end tyranny and totalitarianism it's
doubtful that we'll ever be able to coordinate resolution of any of
these other "wicked problems" that face us.
--
--Scott
"G. Morgan" wrote in message
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Jim,
Good Lord!


What Zach is talking about should not be made light of. Check out
these sobering and frightening websites. Even the fictional accout
gives cause for concern.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Home.html

snip other URL

This is a doomsday scenario. I hope someone smarter than me can put my
mind at
rest and prove this scenario wrong.


--

-Graham

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