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"Bret" wrote in message
... So, what was it you saw in Denver that made you say: "The gayest place I EVER saw was Denver. San Francisco seems downright straight in comparison. " You couldn't walk one mile down a street in Denver without a car pulling over and some guy asking if you wanted a ride while sucking on his thumb.Every time I went off base that occurred and I was there for a year. |
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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message ... "Bret" wrote in message ... So, what was it you saw in Denver that made you say: "The gayest place I EVER saw was Denver. San Francisco seems downright straight in comparison. " You couldn't walk one mile down a street in Denver without a car pulling over and some guy asking if you wanted a ride while sucking on his thumb.Every time I went off base that occurred and I was there for a year. So why did you keep walking down the street? (Sorry, couldn't resist) |
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" wrote: On Aug 5, 12:00 am, Howard Kveck wrote: In other words, they felt the companies they were dealing with had profited quite excessively from the mines. I can't say that either of us is in a position to determine if this was a valid finding - I pointed it out because it seems like the Chileans believed the companies that had been running the mines had been adequately compensated already. Howard, you're discussing accounting details with Greg, which is fine, but has little to do with the fact that Tom is a raving lunatic who just justified the coup, overthrow and death of Allende by lying. He implied that Allende wasn't fairly elected (wrong) and that Allende's accession was dubious because of the death of General Schneider (highly misleading - Schneider was a proponent of keeping the military out of politics, his kidnapping was fomented by the CIA, and the resulting fiasco forced the Parliament to seat Allende, but he had actually won a plurality in the election a month before the Schneider kidnapping/assassination). These are basic facts that can be checked anywhere, including wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende Lying Tom Kunich thinks it was all right for the US government to protect American businesses by depriving Chileans of democracy for 20 years. You're quite right, Ben. I was trying to do better on my Kun-Anon pledge but that wasn't the time. I did get sidetracked on talking about the economic aspect of his bull**** but that misses the entire point of what we'd been discussing. I'd argued with LTK about the situation in Chile at least once previously and he brushed off the number of people who died after the Pinochet coup as insignificant because other people (like Pol Pot or Stalin) killed more. I'd say that he was mistaken about what actually happened in Chile with Allende if he hadn't been demonstrating for years that he will tell blatant falsehoods and try to bluster his way into not admitting them to be falsehoods (how frequently have we seen him acknowledge being wrong in one of these kinds of thread?). We got into a discussion of Chile because Ron Ruff pointed out that the US has helped topple democratically elected governments in other countries; whether Tom Kunich does or doesn't like the policies or positions of people like Allende or Iran's Mossadegh, they *were* democratically elected to lead their respective country and the CIA had no business knocking them over. I realize that this forum (RBR) is pretty small change in the big scheme of things, but I do think it's important to make sure things are presented in as honest and truthful a way as possible. I can only speak for myself, but that's one of the main reasons I've been in these kinds of discussions with Kunich so frequently. It isn't just that I think his views are often reprehensible (as is his presentation of them) but that he's so frequently factually wrong. That, and the way he'll do things like trivialize the subsequent suffering of the people of a country that the US has handed over to a dictator because that country's leadership might cause trouble for US business interests, is rather nauseating. Anyway, thanks for posting the correction that I should have, Ben. |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
"Bret" wrote in message ... So, what was it you saw in Denver that made you say: "The gayest place I EVER saw was Denver. San Francisco seems downright straight in comparison. " You couldn't walk one mile down a street in Denver without a car pulling over and some guy asking if you wanted a ride while sucking on his thumb.Every time I went off base that occurred and I was there for a year. Sounds pretty seedy but I don't see how this compares favorably to your story of SF issuing permits and closing streets for open air gay S&M parties. I don't mean to sound like I'm doubting you. In this area I acknowledge your vastly greater experience. I'm just trying to understand your rating system. |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
You couldn't walk one mile down a street in Denver without a car pulling over and some guy asking if you wanted a ride while sucking on his thumb.Every time I went off base that occurred and I was there for a year. Perhaps you should reduce your gaydar signature. |
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Chester Drawers schreef:
main reasons I've been in these kinds of discussions with Kunich so frequently. Howard, you using your NHL-group alias again? |
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"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
news "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message ... "Bret" wrote in message ... So, what was it you saw in Denver that made you say: "The gayest place I EVER saw was Denver. San Francisco seems downright straight in comparison. " You couldn't walk one mile down a street in Denver without a car pulling over and some guy asking if you wanted a ride while sucking on his thumb.Every time I went off base that occurred and I was there for a year. So why did you keep walking down the street? (Sorry, couldn't resist) Would you allow yourself to be chased off the streets by these perverts? Hell, the air base had thousands of men there who had the same experience every day. Pretty pitiful. |
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"Bret Wade" wrote in message
... Sounds pretty seedy but I don't see how this compares favorably to your story of SF issuing permits and closing streets for open air gay S&M parties. I don't mean to sound like I'm doubting you. In this area I acknowledge your vastly greater experience. I'm just trying to understand your rating system. In San Francisco the gays don't proposition people walking along Broadway. In Denver they would in an instant. |
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Everyone should believe that an anonymous poster has all the information you
need. "Chester Drawers" wrote in message ... Fact is that I never "brushed off" Pinochet because of volume of deaths or any other reason. But it certainly seems a bit strange that the same people that complain about Pinochet's crimes are the same people pushing socialism and who never seemed to have found the time to complain about Stalin's or Mao's tens of millions murdered. But anonymous posters have just too much courage for me to face. |
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"Tom Kunich" a écrit profondement:
| Everyone should believe that an anonymous poster has all the | information you need. | | "Chester Drawers" wrote in message | ... | | Fact is that I never "brushed off" Pinochet because of volume of | deaths or any other reason. But it certainly seems a bit strange that | the same people that complain about Pinochet's crimes are the same | people pushing socialism and who never seemed to have found the time | to complain about Stalin's or Mao's tens of millions murdered. | | But anonymous posters have just too much courage for me to face. | Hee, Hee I bet Heinrich was ****ting bricks the day that British Bobby arresred Pinochet. But the fix was in, they declared him too old an infirm to stand trial so Heinrich got a free pass. Let's see now. The Froggies didn't think twice about putting Maréchal Philippe Pétain on trial for Treason for doing exactly what the Warmonger Churchill had planned to do if the situation warranted it. And Old Mary Stuart went one better. When one of her rebellious Lords died before he could be tried for Treason, she had the ****** dug up and hauled his corpse into court anyway. -- Davey Crockett - Yet another paratrooper wounded in Afghanistan has been threatened by a Muslim visitor to the British hospital where he is recovering. This is not the first such case. Seriously wounded soldiers have complained that they are worried about their safety after being left on wards that are open to the public at Selly Oak Hospital, Birmingham. On one occasion a member of the Parachute Regiment, still dressed in his combat uniform after being evacuated from Afghanistan, was accosted by a Muslim over the British involvement in the country. And with most of the non professional hospital staff and security being Muslims these days, access to the wards is never a problem |
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