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Old January 15th 10, 05:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Lances TDF chances: Astana vs Radioshack

Most of opinons in the news seems to favor Contador at this point.
Even Lance has said this. Lance's only chance will be to tire out
Contador in the flats. So the question then is just how strong is team
Astana aside from the major riders like Vino, Ruberia etc... The most
probable point to gain time is in the cobble stone stage. Alberto
knows and is going to train on that stage in February.
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Old January 15th 10, 06:03 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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save this bull**** until july, no one but kunich gives a **** right
now.
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Old January 16th 10, 05:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Lances TDF chances: Astana vs Radioshack

On Jan 14, 10:05*pm, " wrote:
Most of opinons in the news seems to favor Contador at this point.
Even Lance has said this. Lance's only chance will be to tire out
Contador in the flats.


The headline

"POST RACE FRENCH DRUG TEST SHOWS CONTADOR POSITIVE - ARMSTRONG
DECLARED TDF WINNER !"

Oh what sweet irony that would be....

Zeno
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Old January 16th 10, 05:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Lances TDF chances: Astana vs Radioshack

Zeno wrote:
On Jan 14, 10:05 pm, " wrote:
Most of opinons in the news seems to favor Contador at this point.
Even Lance has said this. Lance's only chance will be to tire out
Contador in the flats.


The headline

"POST RACE FRENCH DRUG TEST SHOWS CONTADOR POSITIVE - ARMSTRONG
DECLARED TDF WINNER !"

Oh what sweet irony that would be....

Zeno


I get the irony, but there are several mistakes in your claim.

First, you are assuming that Armstrong will get second (or be shown as
the first non-doper)

Second, the French will never allow Contador to be deeked if Armstrong
stands to win.
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Old January 17th 10, 04:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Lances TDF chances: Astana vs Radioshack

"z" wrote in message
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Zeno wrote:
On Jan 14, 10:05 pm, " wrote:
Most of opinons in the news seems to favor Contador at this point.
Even Lance has said this. Lance's only chance will be to tire out
Contador in the flats.


The headline

"POST RACE FRENCH DRUG TEST SHOWS CONTADOR POSITIVE - ARMSTRONG
DECLARED TDF WINNER !"

Oh what sweet irony that would be....

Zeno


I get the irony, but there are several mistakes in your claim.

First, you are assuming that Armstrong will get second (or be shown as
the first non-doper)

Second, the French will never allow Contador to be deeked if Armstrong
stands to win.


Au contraire, your second assumption is untrue. Lance endeared himself
to the French in the best-possibly manner last year by coming in third.
It couldn't have been scripted better, in terms of acceptance and
redemption. An heroic loss. The french press eats that stuff up. Guess
it's what they can best relate to (talking cycling here, not past wars).

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


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Old January 17th 10, 04:17 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Lances TDF chances: Astana vs Radioshack

On Jan 14, 10:05*pm, " wrote:
Most of opinons in the news seems to favor Contador at this point.
Even Lance has said this. Lance's only chance will be to tire out
Contador in the flats. So the question then is just how strong is team
Astana aside from the major riders like Vino, Ruberia etc... The most
probable point to gain time is in the cobble stone stage. Alberto
knows and is going to train on that stage in February.


It's not a function of tiring Contador out on the flats, it's a
function of pushing the field so hard on the stage w/ the cobbles that
they split the field and put many, many minutes into Contador and any
other lightweight climber type who can't make it into the front group
over the cobbles. There is a very good chance that whomever does make
the front group will have maybe 8 or 10 minutes over the riders who
don't make the group.

Fred
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Old January 17th 10, 09:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Lances TDF chances: Astana vs Radioshack

On Jan 16, 8:17*pm, Fred wrote:
On Jan 14, 10:05*pm, " wrote:

Most of opinons in the news seems to favor Contador at this point.
Even Lance has said this. Lance's only chance will be to tire out
Contador in the flats. So the question then is just how strong is team
Astana aside from the major riders like Vino, Ruberia etc... The most
probable point to gain time is in the cobble stone stage. Alberto
knows and is going to train on that stage in February.


It's not a function of tiring Contador out on the flats, it's a
function of pushing the field so hard on the stage w/ the cobbles that
they split the field and put many, many minutes into Contador and any
other lightweight climber type who can't make it into the front group
over the cobbles. *There is a very good chance that whomever does make
the front group will have maybe 8 or 10 minutes over the riders who
don't make the group.

Fred


A possible strategy for Radioshack is to push the pace very hard till
the Arrenberg stage. Then protect their lead until the mountains. One
issue is that more of the top climbers like Contador are more well
rounded. So it's harder to put signiificant time on the flats. The key
is just how strong Contador really is.
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Old January 19th 10, 03:20 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Lances TDF chances: Astana vs Radioshack

wrote:

Most of opinons in the news seems to favor Contador at this point.


The key is just how strong Contador really is.


OK, then.

-S-


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Old January 19th 10, 04:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Lances TDF chances: Astana vs Radioshack

In article , "Steve Freides"
wrote:

wrote:

Most of opinons in the news seems to favor Contador at this point.


The key is just how strong Contador really is.


OK, then.


Yeah, nothing belaboring the obvious, right?
 




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