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Probably a waste of my time but its my time to waste
To Ed,
For a long time I have taken the position that you should be welcomed to this group. Actually my position has been that everyone should be welcome. I don't really think that has changed. However, It is difficult to imagine that you can not see that group has become what you have made of it. You have taken pride in being the "All Time Poster" in terms of number of messages. I think that means that you have left a pretty big stamp on the group. jwold, Ed Gin, or whatever his (or her) name is, is a reaction to what you have created. Without Ed Dolan there would be no jwold postings. While the idea of "Fight Fire With Fire" is a well know cliche, when you actually do it, you end up with a bigger fire. If it is fire you want then it is fire you've got. But don't pretend that you have nothing to do with it. If the group happens to be composed of mostly liberals then that is what the group is made up of. It really isn't your place to decide what points of view are welcome and what points of view are not. What this group has become is what you, the all time, number one poster, has made it. I am certain that you will respond to this post as you respond to just about everything. For the record, I have no intention of carrying on a dialog with you about the point's I've raised in this posting. It is a pointless exercise as is this message itself I suppose. This means that I will not respond to anything that you answer and I don't think I'll start another thread since I don't have anything else to add. As I always have (and always will), I wish you well. Jeff |
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Probably a waste of my time but its my time to waste
"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message ... To Ed, For a long time I have taken the position that you should be welcomed to this group. Actually my position has been that everyone should be welcome. I don't really think that has changed. However, No, you freaking moron, not everyone should be welcome! That is a god damn liberal idea bathed in political correctness that should have a stake driven through the heart of it. How do you get to be so stupid? It is difficult to imagine that you can not see that group has become what you have made of it. You have taken pride in being the "All Time Poster" in terms of number of messages. I think that means that you have left a pretty big stamp on the group. jwold, Ed Gin, or whatever his (or her) name is, is a reaction to what you have created. Without Ed Dolan there would be no jwold postings. Wrong again! Ed Gin is what he is - human scum. The question is how do you keep human scum off of a newsgroup. There is no way to do it if the group does not have a moderator. ARBR needs a moderator just like any civilized group does. Without a moderator, you get human scum like Ed Gin and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it. While the idea of "Fight Fire With Fire" is a well know cliche, when you actually do it, you end up with a bigger fire. If it is fire you want then it is fire you've got. But don't pretend that you have nothing to do with it. **** Ed Gin and all those who post like him! The rest of you are cowards not to stand up to this bully asshole. If the group happens to be composed of mostly liberals then that is what the group is made up of. It really isn't your place to decide what points of view are welcome and what points of view are not. I insist on balance and, by God, there will be balance here if I have to blow a gasket. What this group has become is what you, the all time, number one poster, has made it. The rest of you have proven yourselves to be cowards. ARBR deserves to die and Ed Gin and I will kill this ****ing group. Get a moderator or get lost! The BROL type of forum is the ONLY way to go. I am certain that you will respond to this post as you respond to just about everything. For the record, I have no intention of carrying on a dialog with you about the point's I've raised in this posting. It is a pointless exercise as is this message itself I suppose. This means that I will not respond to anything that you answer and I don't think I'll start another thread since I don't have anything else to add. As I always have (and always will), I wish you well. So how are you coming along with your rehabilitation from your accident? If you can no longer cycle I recommend that you walk. It is safer and just as healthy. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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So how are you coming along with your rehabilitation from your accident?
If you can no longer cycle I recommend that you walk. It is safer and just as healthy. Thank you for asking. Walking has, unfortunately, become a very unpleasant activity. One of the residual effects is that I have a foot drop on my right side. The result is that my right foot is always dragging and getting caught when I walk. I have been fitted for a brace that should help. We'll see. On the other hand I have been back in the gym for quite some time and I have recovered strength I haven't had in years. I have also returned to martial arts study. I was able to locate a school whose philosophy of training is that "you work with whatever you've got". They are not rigid about how things have to be done. They teach you to do what you are able to do with the tools that you have. So even though I can't ride (yet!), I would say things are going pretty well. Thanks again for asking. Jeff |
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"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message ... So how are you coming along with your rehabilitation from your accident? If you can no longer cycle I recommend that you walk. It is safer and just as healthy. Thank you for asking. Walking has, unfortunately, become a very unpleasant activity. One of the residual effects is that I have a foot drop on my right side. The result is that my right foot is always dragging and getting caught when I walk. I have been fitted for a brace that should help. We'll see. On the other hand I have been back in the gym for quite some time and I have recovered strength I haven't had in years. I have also returned to martial arts study. I was able to locate a school whose philosophy of training is that "you work with whatever you've got". They are not rigid about how things have to be done. They teach you to do what you are able to do with the tools that you have. So even though I can't ride (yet!), I would say things are going pretty well. Thanks again for asking. Jeff Jeff, you are going to do just fine because of the attitude you have about it. I wish I could be more like you in that respect. I am always in despair about most things. Why I am this way I do not know but I have always been like this. I am a total pessimist about everything. Best of luck to you. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message ... [...] You have taken pride in being the "All Time Poster" in terms of number of messages. I think that means that you have left a pretty big stamp on the group. jwold, Ed Gin, or whatever his (or her) name is, is a reaction to what you have created. Without Ed Dolan there would be no jwold postings. Jeff, I have complete contempt for anyone who posts to Usenet who does not use their real name. You and I use our real names, That is why I accord you respect that I could never accord anyone who does not perform this very elementary courtesy of using their real name. I KNOW that the SPAMMING TROLL is Ed Gin and I will continue to skewer him forever. He is human scum and that is how I shall treat him for all eternity. Real names count and user names are for ****heads like Ed Gin - period! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message ... [...] It is difficult to imagine that you can not see that group has become what you have made of it. [...] What this group has become is what you, the all time, number one poster, has made it. Jeff Grippe is a very funny fellow indeed. Let's have a look at this newsgroup for a moment from my perspective. It is mostly made up of working class slobs who are not in the least intellectual. I have made allowances for this and cut everyone a lot of slack on this issue. After all there is nothing wrong with being a working class slob. Hells Bells, it is what makes the world go around. A working class slob is a hundred times more important than I am. But I am not a working class slob. I am an intellectual. I live in the mind and for the mind. What I bring to this newsgroup is priceless if you had the wit to appreciate it. Yes, I am off-topic most of the time, but I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull newsgroup. After all, there is only so much that can be said about recumbent bicycles. Truth to tell, I am always amazed at how little working class slobs appreciate intellectuals like me. Jeff Grippe is a New York Jew and I expect more of him than I do the rest of you. Why he does not appreciate me more than he does is a very great mystery to me. That he would equate me with the SPAMMING TROLL is the ultimate insult. Jeff Grippe needs to reexamine his perspective on this newsgroup. I am contentious because I believe that is the only way to get the old mental juices flowing. I will often say things that even I don't believe just to get a rise out of someone - anyone! Damn it all to hell, don't you just hate boring posts that say nothing? Let us all try to say something and let the chips fall where they may. We will all of us be dead soon enough and food for worms, but let's have some fun while we are still alive. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Jeff,
Pardon the top post. I have to agree with virtually all you have had to say with but a singular exception. If the group has become what Ed Dolan has made it and the spamming posts are a reaction to what he created and without him there would be no such postings, that doesn't account for why I am also the focus and target of these posts especially since I was if anything an adversary of Dolan's and even defended Ed Gin when Dolan asserted that Ed Gin's website hosted pornographic images when it most assuredly did not.. Jim McNamara Jeff Grippe wrote: To Ed, For a long time I have taken the position that you should be welcomed to this group. Actually my position has been that everyone should be welcome. I don't really think that has changed. However, It is difficult to imagine that you can not see that group has become what you have made of it. You have taken pride in being the "All Time Poster" in terms of number of messages. I think that means that you have left a pretty big stamp on the group. jwold, Ed Gin, or whatever his (or her) name is, is a reaction to what you have created. Without Ed Dolan there would be no jwold postings. While the idea of "Fight Fire With Fire" is a well know cliche, when you actually do it, you end up with a bigger fire. If it is fire you want then it is fire you've got. But don't pretend that you have nothing to do with it. If the group happens to be composed of mostly liberals then that is what the group is made up of. It really isn't your place to decide what points of view are welcome and what points of view are not. What this group has become is what you, the all time, number one poster, has made it. I am certain that you will respond to this post as you respond to just about everything. For the record, I have no intention of carrying on a dialog with you about the point's I've raised in this posting. It is a pointless exercise as is this message itself I suppose. This means that I will not respond to anything that you answer and I don't think I'll start another thread since I don't have anything else to add. As I always have (and always will), I wish you well. Jeff |
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Probably a waste of my time but its my time to waste
Jeff, you are going to do just fine because of the attitude you have about
it. I wish I could be more like you in that respect. I am always in despair about most things. Why I am this way I do not know but I have always been like this. I am a total pessimist about everything. Best of luck to you. Thank you again for the encouragement. Regarding your opinion of me/you, the saying is "It takes all kinds" In my opinion, there is real value in the pessimist. It is important to have someone like you around when I'm about to charge headlong into something stupid. I married someone who is fairly pessimistic most of the time and the relationship works pretty well. Having you be you and me be me keeps life interesting. Again I thank you for your good wishes. Jeff |
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Probably a waste of my time but its my time to waste
Why he does not appreciate me more than he does is a very great mystery to
me. That he would equate me with the SPAMMING TROLL is the ultimate insult. Jeff Grippe needs to reexamine his perspective on this newsgroup. I said I wouldn't carry on a discussion about this. Add liar to my list of qualities. For the record, I appreciate you quite a bit as I've often said. I do not equate you with the SPAMMING TROLL. Regarding the SPAMMING TROLL: I find the actions of the person who has been posting your and Jim's addresses to be completely deplorable. His behavior is completely and utterly unacceptable. He is pointlessly vulgar and serves no other function than to irritate. I would like him to stop what he is doing. Regarding you: At times I wish you were more civil and willing to engage in real dialog but it is fine with me if you do what you do. I've stopped responding to most of what you post. What I said and I stand by is that the ST is a reaction to what you have posted. It is a cause and effect relationship. However, there is nothing that you've ever said that justifies this type of response. In Summary: 1. Your behavior lead to the ST 2. The ST's behavior is despicable and should be condemned by all 3. Your behavior is just you being you which has always been fine with me. In case the ST decides that I now belong in his sites, I am... Jeff Grippe 23 Chesley Road White Plains, NY 10605 |
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Top post, no problem.
Jim, Just so we get my POV correct, however, the behavior of Ed Gin is completely unacceptable. The behavior of ED is simply ED doing what ED does. I have no problem with self-expression that I don't happen to agree with. As many people have pointed out, there are mechanisms available to filter out ED's posting if that is what you want to do. I stand by my description of the cause/effect relationship but I also believe that Ed Gin (or whoever it is) has crossed a line that ED has not. Most of the time I have said that it is my opinion that ED is welcome. I don't feel that way about the ST. There is a line that ST has crossed that ED has not. Jeff "JimmyMac" wrote in message ps.com... Jeff, Pardon the top post. I have to agree with virtually all you have had to say with but a singular exception. If the group has become what Ed Dolan has made it and the spamming posts are a reaction to what he created and without him there would be no such postings, that doesn't account for why I am also the focus and target of these posts especially since I was if anything an adversary of Dolan's and even defended Ed Gin when Dolan asserted that Ed Gin's website hosted pornographic images when it most assuredly did not.. Jim McNamara Jeff Grippe wrote: To Ed, For a long time I have taken the position that you should be welcomed to this group. Actually my position has been that everyone should be welcome. I don't really think that has changed. However, It is difficult to imagine that you can not see that group has become what you have made of it. You have taken pride in being the "All Time Poster" in terms of number of messages. I think that means that you have left a pretty big stamp on the group. jwold, Ed Gin, or whatever his (or her) name is, is a reaction to what you have created. Without Ed Dolan there would be no jwold postings. While the idea of "Fight Fire With Fire" is a well know cliche, when you actually do it, you end up with a bigger fire. If it is fire you want then it is fire you've got. But don't pretend that you have nothing to do with it. If the group happens to be composed of mostly liberals then that is what the group is made up of. It really isn't your place to decide what points of view are welcome and what points of view are not. What this group has become is what you, the all time, number one poster, has made it. I am certain that you will respond to this post as you respond to just about everything. For the record, I have no intention of carrying on a dialog with you about the point's I've raised in this posting. It is a pointless exercise as is this message itself I suppose. This means that I will not respond to anything that you answer and I don't think I'll start another thread since I don't have anything else to add. As I always have (and always will), I wish you well. Jeff |
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