Poor Floyd

Yeah, it sucks for all those guys who finally got caught with their
hands in the cookie jar, but I feel the worst for Floyd. I've
maintained for some time now that he's my favorite for the Tour, and
now that most of his major competitors won't be in the race, he's an
even stronger favorite. But, if he wins now, his victory will be
forever tainted by the scandal, as folks will say he only won because
so and so (insert your favorite, Basso, Ullrich, whomever) wasn't
there.

Of course, this presupposes that Floyd won't be caught up in the
frenzy. These days it's hard to speculate as to who will or won't.
Somehow I can't see Floyd caught up in this, but under the
circumstances even that seems like a silly comment.

Scott

p.s. If not Floyd, then I feel badly for whomever wins, for the same
reasons.

On 2006-06-30, Scott wrote:
Yeah, it sucks for all those guys who finally got caught with their
hands in the cookie jar, but I feel the worst for Floyd. I've
maintained for some time now that he's my favorite for the Tour, and
now that most of his major competitors won't be in the race, he's an
even stronger favorite. But, if he wins now, his victory will be
forever tainted by the scandal, as folks will say he only won because
so and so (insert your favorite, Basso, Ullrich, whomever) wasn't
there.

Of course, this presupposes that Floyd won't be caught up in the
frenzy. These days it's hard to speculate as to who will or won't.
Somehow I can't see Floyd caught up in this, but under the
circumstances even that seems like a silly comment.

Scott

p.s. If not Floyd, then I feel badly for whomever wins, for the same
reasons.


I'm worried that he's in the mix too. I mean, Phonak has had its share
of troubles in their short time. So it's hard not to imagine him being
caught up in this too.

Preston

Scott wrote:

Somehow I can't see Floyd caught up in this, but under the
circumstances even that seems like a silly comment.


Phonak:

GC contender

#1 Botero - Blood dope

next they tried

#2 Hamilton -Blood dope

We go on

#3 Santi Perez - Blood Dope

And we go on

#4 Guttierez - Blood Dope

You seriously doubt that Landis is dirty? He would be Phonaks FIRST GC
cointender without dope. And what to think of someone who stays in that
team... they all doped behind Landis back? I hope you aren't that
naive.

Where do you find a list of who is on the team rosters that is upto
date?

Preston Crawford wrote:
On 2006-06-30, Scott wrote:
Yeah, it sucks for all those guys who finally got caught with their
hands in the cookie jar, but I feel the worst for Floyd. I've
maintained for some time now that he's my favorite for the Tour, and
now that most of his major competitors won't be in the race, he's an
even stronger favorite. But, if he wins now, his victory will be
forever tainted by the scandal, as folks will say he only won because
so and so (insert your favorite, Basso, Ullrich, whomever) wasn't
there.

Of course, this presupposes that Floyd won't be caught up in the
frenzy. These days it's hard to speculate as to who will or won't.
Somehow I can't see Floyd caught up in this, but under the
circumstances even that seems like a silly comment.

Scott

p.s. If not Floyd, then I feel badly for whomever wins, for the same
reasons.


I'm worried that he's in the mix too. I mean, Phonak has had its share
of troubles in their short time. So it's hard not to imagine him being
caught up in this too.

Preston

They said that about Lance in 1999--that he only won because Pantani
and Ullrich weren't there. And he went on to win 6 more. I think anyone
would be thrilled to win the TdF even in a scandal-ridden year.

Tuschinski wrote:
Scott wrote:

Somehow I can't see Floyd caught up in this, but under the
circumstances even that seems like a silly comment.


Phonak:

GC contender

#1 Botero - Blood dope

next they tried

#2 Hamilton -Blood dope

We go on

#3 Santi Perez - Blood Dope

And we go on

#4 Guttierez - Blood Dope

You seriously doubt that Landis is dirty? He would be Phonaks FIRST GC
cointender without dope. And what to think of someone who stays in that
team... they all doped behind Landis back? I hope you aren't that
naive.

Landis came from the clean postal system.

In article .com,
wrote:

Tuschinski wrote:
Scott wrote:

Somehow I can't see Floyd caught up in this, but under the
circumstances even that seems like a silly comment.


Phonak:

GC contender

#1 Botero - Blood dope

next they tried

#2 Hamilton -Blood dope

We go on

#3 Santi Perez - Blood Dope

And we go on

#4 Guttierez - Blood Dope

You seriously doubt that Landis is dirty? He would be Phonaks FIRST GC
cointender without dope. And what to think of someone who stays in that
team... they all doped behind Landis back? I hope you aren't that
naive.

Landis came from the clean postal system.

Landis is from good Mennonite stock. As we can see from the list of
names above, only Papists and Episcopalians* dope. With Lance, he being
not religious, it's a question of whether he follows Ayn Rand in theory
(keeps promises) or in practice (cheats flagrantly on one's spouse).

*I can't back that up, but if Hamilton isn't an Episcopalian name, I
don't know what is.

Since I'm a devout Catholic, I now have to go to confession,

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan Cousineau wrote:


Landis is from good Mennonite stock. As we can see from the list of
names above, only Papists dope.

I wondered why we hadn't seen Ken around here lately. Must be keeping a
low profile to avoid prosecution.

-B

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:49:46 GMT, Ryan Cousineau
wrote:

Landis is from good Mennonite stock. As we can see from the list of
names above, only Papists and Episcopalians* dope.

Unitarian Universalists dope too, but we usually have some subgroup of
Pagan persuasion that makes it all liturgical. The Wiccas are there as
the deep fallback - but there's gnarly, lumpy stuff in their dope.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Along these lines, when I told my wife the news this morning, she
quipped, "well, then it should be easy for the three remaining riders
to make the podium."


-JR