The idée fixe of the anti-helmet zealots, the vehicular cyclists, etc

On Saturday, January 4, 2014 7:53:58 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:50:36 -0800, Dan
wrote:

Frank Krygowski writes:

Surely someone as wise as the pope must know that ALL ideas are valid, and that there is no point in trying to determine correctness, because nobody is more correct than anybody else. Anything else would be bias. Right? ;-)

Aha! "Correctness" You see, opinions cannot be correct or
incorrect. *That* is why you are so offensive. You think
your opinions are correct and contrary opinons are incorrect.
You dress up your opinions as facts - you convince *yourself
they're facts. ...


But of course, "all ideas" are not valid. Frank objects vigorously to
any statement that implies that "Frank doesn't know what he is talking
about" even though he has just stated that "ALL ideas are valid".

(which seems to say something about Frank's version of reality)

Rather, it says something about inability to recognize a joke, even when it's followed by the usual emoticon.

Maybe the problem is that some people really do believe _all_ opinions are equally valid. F=m*a^2, E=m*c^3, V=i*R^4, 2+2=347, and riding facing traffic is just fine.

But in all seriousness, I think the Pope - and almost all educate men - are far beyond that. All developments since the early stone age have occurred because most people realize that some things are correct and some other things are wrong.

- Frank Krygowski

John B. writes:

On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:50:36 -0800, Dan
wrote:

Frank Krygowski writes:

On Saturday, January 4, 2014 6:35:51 AM UTC-5, John B. wrote:

Bias? Bite your tongue. The next thing you'll be alleging that the
Pope is biased :-)

Surely someone as wise as the pope must know that ALL ideas are valid, and that there is no point in trying to determine correctness, because nobody is more correct than anybody else. Anything else would be bias. Right? ;-)


Aha! "Correctness" You see, opinions cannot be correct or
incorrect. *That* is why you are so offensive. You think
your opinions are correct and contrary opinons are incorrect.
You dress up your opinions as facts - you convince *yourself*
they're facts.

And as for the Catholic Shurch trying to "determine correctness",
that's a moving target, is it not? In fact, one might say it's
an imaginary target that keeps not being where they thought it
was. What's up with that?

But of course, "all ideas" are not valid. Frank objects vigorously to
any statement that implies that "Frank doesn't know what he is talking
about" even though he has just stated that "ALL ideas are valid".

(which seems to say something about Frank's version of reality)

Or your comprehension of irony.

--
Joe Riel

On Saturday, January 4, 2014 5:23:54 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 7:53:58 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:

On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:50:36 -0800, Dan

wrote:



Frank Krygowski writes:



Surely someone as wise as the pope must know that ALL ideas are valid, and that there is no point in trying to determine correctness, because nobody is more correct than anybody else. Anything else would be bias. Right? ;-)



Aha! "Correctness" You see, opinions cannot be correct or

incorrect. *That* is why you are so offensive. You think

your opinions are correct and contrary opinons are incorrect.

You dress up your opinions as facts - you convince *yourself

they're facts. ...





But of course, "all ideas" are not valid. Frank objects vigorously to

any statement that implies that "Frank doesn't know what he is talking

about" even though he has just stated that "ALL ideas are valid".



(which seems to say something about Frank's version of reality)



Rather, it says something about inability to recognize a joke, even when it's followed by the usual emoticon.



Maybe the problem is that some people really do believe _all_ opinions are equally valid. F=m*a^2, E=m*c^3, V=i*R^4, 2+2=347, and riding facing traffic is just fine.



But in all seriousness, I think the Pope - and almost all educate men - are far beyond that. All developments since the early stone age have occurred because most people realize that some things are correct and some other things are wrong.


People often say, "right", when they mean "correct"; but "correct"
and "right" are different things.

(I realize that you will be unable to conceive of this.)

Appreciate accuracy for what it is; don't worship it as the exclusive
validation of ideas. That's just sad.